Commissar SFLUFAN 20,529 Posted Tuesday at 10:53 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:53 PM ‘Deadpool 3’ Confirmed for the MCU; Kevin Feige Teases R-Rating and When It’s Filming COLLIDER.COM Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige confirms Deadpool 3 will be in the MCU and will be Rated R, but fans are going to have to wait a bit to see it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Wednesday at 07:36 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:36 AM Yeah we'll see. And how do they retcon the connections to the Fox X-Men films in the first two movies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CitizenVectron 8,929 Posted Wednesday at 01:33 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:33 PM 5 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Yeah we'll see. And how do they retcon the connections to the Fox X-Men films in the first two movies? Those films now belong to Marvel, so probably any way they want. If anything, Deadpool is the property most suited to playing with multiverses and having fun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kal-El814 6,588 Posted Wednesday at 02:10 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:10 PM 6 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Yeah we'll see. And how do they retcon the connections to the Fox X-Men films in the first two movies? Didn’t he have a time travel gizmo at the end of Deadpool 2? It freaks out and sends him to the MCU, fin, a play in one act. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keyser_Soze 11,051 Posted Wednesday at 02:13 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:13 PM 6 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Yeah we'll see. And how do they retcon the connections to the Fox X-Men films in the first two movies? You're talking about X-Men Origins: Wolverine and what other movie? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ort 1,657 Posted Wednesday at 04:57 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:57 PM Yeah, it sounds like they are going all in with multi-verse stuff to explain away this stuff, so they can do whatever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Wednesday at 05:00 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:00 PM 3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Those films now belong to Marvel, so probably any way they want. If anything, Deadpool is the property most suited to playing with multiverses and having fun. I mean, that means Fox X-Men films are canon in the MCU? 2 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: Didn’t he have a time travel gizmo at the end of Deadpool 2? It freaks out and sends him to the MCU, fin, a play in one act. He did, he goes back in time to save Morena Baccarin, undoing her death from Deadpool 2. Theoretically, he could take it further, but traveling in time is different than crossing to other dimensions. 2 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: You're talking about X-Men Origins: Wolverine and what other movie? Deadpool 1 has the X-Men: First Class cast in it, and Deadpool 2 continues with Juggernaut showing up and Colossus coming back again. It's nothing big, but the connections are there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keyser_Soze 11,051 Posted Wednesday at 05:06 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:06 PM 5 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Deadpool 1 has the X-Men: First Class cast in it, and Deadpool 2 continues with Juggernaut showing up and Colossus coming back again. It's nothing big, but the connections are there. So you mean three movies! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Wednesday at 05:06 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:06 PM Just now, Keyser_Soze said: So you mean three movies! Yep! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kal-El814 6,588 Posted Wednesday at 05:22 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:22 PM 21 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: He did, he goes back in time to save Morena Baccarin, undoing her death from Deadpool 2. Theoretically, he could take it further, but traveling in time is different than crossing to other dimensions. In the MCU, time travel is KINDA like going to other dimensions? So many Deadpool ends back up in a dimension with Morena and the current MCU? Who knows. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Wednesday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:25 PM 2 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: In the MCU, time travel is KINDA like going to other dimensions? So many Deadpool ends back up in a dimension with Morena and the current MCU? Who knows. Is that true? I believe the time stone and the space stone are different: Loki steals the space stone in Avengers: Endgame which allows him to travel alternate dimensions (hence the new Loki show) but Dr. Strange's time stone just moves you through time, but only in your current dimension. And Deadpool 2's time travel device (not an infinity stone), taken from Cable, does the same, I believe. Time travel, not space travel (meaning alternate dimension travel). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kal-El814 6,588 Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM 16 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Is that true? I believe the time stone and the space stone are different: Loki steals the space stone in Avengers: Endgame which allows him to travel alternate dimensions (hence the new Loki show) but Dr. Strange's time stone just moves you through time, but only in your current dimension. And Deadpool 2's time travel device (not an infinity stone), taken from Cable, does the same, I believe. Time travel, not space travel (meaning alternate dimension travel). At the end of Endgame, the shield Cap gives to Falcon is a different shield than the one Thanos destroyed / that he had in the MCU movies up until that moment. Cap definitely didn’t just go back in time, he went somewhere else. I think the time stone specifically lets someone fuck with time like a DVR, so it’s kind of a different thing? When Strange rewinds the Necronomicon or whatever fucking book Mads messed with in Doctor Strange, the pages are restored but it’s not like Mads has his past with them altered, he still knows the cheat codes he learned from the book. The time heist is specifically not about messing with the past... they “borrow” the infinity stones for practically no time at all since Cap’s quest is to put them back exactly where / when they were found. But again, Cap definitely lives his life in a past that’s NOT the normal MCU, so there’s some precedent for “time travel” having the potential to send someone somewhere else, not just somewhen else. I think one of Endgame’s writers disputes this about Endgame, but... that doesn’t jive with Cap having a different shield so who the fuck knows. EDIT - also we’re talking about Deadpool so for all we know he could Blazing Saddles / Monty Python and The Holy Grail this shit and just walk onto the set of Thor Love and Thunder. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Wednesday at 05:46 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:46 PM 4 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: At the end of Endgame, the shield Cap gives to Falcon is a different shield than the one Thanos destroyed / that he had in the MCU movies up until that moment. Cap definitely didn’t just go back in time, he went somewhere else. I think the time stone specifically lets someone fuck with time like a DVR, so it’s kind of a different thing? When Strange rewinds the Necronomicon or whatever fucking book Mads messed with in Doctor Strange, the pages are restored but it’s not like Mads has his past with them altered, he still knows the cheat codes he learned from the book. The time heist is specifically not about messing with the past... they “borrow” the infinity stones for practically no time at all since Cap’s quest is to put them back exactly where / when they were found. But again, Cap definitely lives his life in a past that’s NOT the normal MCU, so there’s some precedent for “time travel” having the potential to send someone somewhere else, not just somewhen else. I think one of Endgame’s writers disputes this about Endgame, but... that doesn’t jive with Cap having a different shield so who the fuck knows. EDIT - also we’re talking about Deadpool so for all we know he could Blazing Saddles / Monty Python and The Holy Grail this shit and just walk onto the set of Thor Love and Thunder. I'm with you 100% about Cap, but wasn't that due to Ant-Man and Banner's unique time travel device they made or whatever? And not due to the time stone or space stone? I've only seen that movie once, so I can't quite remember. But Ant-Man's quantum stuff, the infinity stones, and Cable's time travel device are all entirely different things that do different things, so we can't treat them as the same, right? And yeah, I agree with you it's fucking Deadpool (my favorite "superhero") and they'll probably just handwave all this away. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kal-El814 6,588 Posted Wednesday at 05:52 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:52 PM 2 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I'm with you 100% about Cap, but wasn't that due to Ant-Man and Banner's unique time travel device they made or whatever? And not due to the time stone or space stone? I've only seen that movie once, so I can't quite remember. But Ant-Man's quantum stuff, the infinity stones, and Cable's time travel device are all entirely different things that do different things, so we can't treat them as the same, right? And yeah, I agree with you it's fucking Deadpool (my favorite "superhero") and they'll probably just handwave all this away. I like Deadpool as well, but the writers seemed surprised when people reacted poorly to fridging Morena in Deadpool 2 and said that they were unfamiliar with the trope, so... I imagine they can’t care too much about how they approach the MCU integration seeing as how they apparently don’t read 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Wednesday at 05:56 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:56 PM 2 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I like Deadpool as well, but the writers seemed surprised when people reacted poorly to fridging Morena in Deadpool 2 and said that they were unfamiliar with the trope, so... I imagine they can’t care too much about how they approach the MCU integration seeing as how they apparently don’t read I remember that - all the hoopla over fridging her. I thought killing her off was done well, and they brought her back by the end anyway, so I didn't see the big deal, but I do understand the distaste for the trope. It's somewhat surprising that Rhett Rheese and Paul Wernick, two very self-aware comedy writers, didn't know about the trope, but they said they didn't so I guess they didn't know. How do you write two Zombieland movies and two Deadpool movies and not know? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kal-El814 6,588 Posted Wednesday at 05:58 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:58 PM Just now, Greatoneshere said: I remember that - all the hoopla over fridging her. I thought killing her off was done well, and they brought her back by the end anyway, so I didn't see the big deal, but I do understand the distaste for the trope. It's somewhat surprising that Rhett Rheese and Paul Wernick, two very self-aware comedy writers, didn't know about the trope, but they said they didn't so I guess they didn't know. How do you write two Zombieland movies and two Deadpool movies and not know? Yeah I thought Deadpool 2 handled it... fine. Though I get being burned out on the trope, and it’s one of the least interesting things they could have done to either character. But whatever. As far as them not knowing... I mean what the fuck, the trope comes from a fucking Green Lantern comic. GREEN LANTERN. THE THING THEY REFERENCE IN THESE MOVIES. BECAUSE RYAN REYNOLDS. How the hell do you not know??? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 15,576 Posted Wednesday at 06:04 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:04 PM 24 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: EDIT - also we’re talking about Deadpool so for all we know he could Blazing Saddles / Monty Python and The Holy Grail this shit and just walk onto the set of Thor Love and Thunder. Was gonna say, Deadpool is probably their easiest character to do a heavy retcon on. The branching timelines thing plus the upcoming multiverse stuff also gives them tons of other ways to do it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
number305 544 Posted Wednesday at 09:24 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:24 PM With Deadpool they don't really need to worry about explaining the shenanigans with the different universes. Deadpool can just look at the camera and shrug and say well I guess I'm a part of the MCU now... just address it all directly. That probably makes it a lot easier to keep the deadpool story going. When their is eventually a new wolverine Deadpool can just flat out say wow I thought you used to look a lot more like the actor Hugh Jackman. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Wednesday at 09:39 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:39 PM 14 minutes ago, number305 said: With Deadpool they don't really need to worry about explaining the shenanigans with the different universes. Deadpool can just look at the camera and shrug and say well I guess I'm a part of the MCU now... just address it all directly. That probably makes it a lot easier to keep the deadpool story going. When their is eventually a new wolverine Deadpool can just flat out say wow I thought you used to look a lot more like the actor Hugh Jackman. I totally agree - but there still needs to be some explanation how he got into the MCU universe from the Fox X-Men one then. Not a big deal, just saying they better. I'm much more doubtful of an R-rated Disney superhero film, but hey, here's to hoping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 15,576 Posted Wednesday at 09:58 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:58 PM 17 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I totally agree - but there still needs to be some explanation how he got into the MCU universe from the Fox X-Men one then. Not a big deal, just saying they better. I'm much more doubtful of an R-rated Disney superhero film, but hey, here's to hoping. His whole thing is that the battle between his regeneration and his cancer is making him crazy, if they really wanted to they could just chalk it up to him having a warped perception of reality. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Wednesday at 09:59 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:59 PM 1 minute ago, Jason said: His whole thing is that the battle between his regeneration and his cancer is making him crazy, if they really wanted to they could just chalk it up to him having a warped perception of reality. Well see, now we're getting into cool, proper Deadpool ideas. I'm all in for this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimpleG 1,492 Posted Thursday at 12:07 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:07 AM 2 hours ago, Jason said: His whole thing is that the battle between his regeneration and his cancer is making him crazy, if they really wanted to they could just chalk it up to him having a warped perception of reality. They already do this, thats why he constantly breaks the 4th wall. He knows hes a fictional character. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NeoJoe 1,609 Posted Thursday at 12:57 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:57 AM They go full Dallas and Deadpool wakes up saying the first two movies were dreams. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sexy_shapiro 549 Posted Thursday at 03:46 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:46 AM MCU fans are continuity obsessed so I’m sure Feige has something in mind to tie these universes together that goes beyond a simple throwaway gag. I’m personally against mixing the two worlds together but it’s obviously in Marvel’s best interest to bring such a popular character into the fold. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 15,576 Posted Thursday at 05:06 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:06 AM 13 hours ago, sexy_shapiro said: MCU fans are continuity obsessed so I’m sure Feige has something in mind to tie these universes together that goes beyond a simple throwaway gag. I’m personally against mixing the two worlds together but it’s obviously in Marvel’s best interest to bring such a popular character into the fold. It's coming out after the Spider-Man and Dr. Strange multiverse movies, right? That seems like the easiest explanation. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remarkableriots 1,680 Posted Thursday at 02:42 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:42 PM 21 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: I mean, that means Fox X-Men films are canon in the MCU? He did, he goes back in time to save Morena Baccarin, undoing her death from Deadpool 2. Theoretically, he could take it further, but traveling in time is different than crossing to other dimensions. Deadpool 1 has the X-Men: First Class cast in it, and Deadpool 2 continues with Juggernaut showing up and Colossus coming back again. It's nothing big, but the connections are there. Deadpool used far superior versions of Colossus and Juggernaut because the X-Men movie versions sucked. It was Deadpool 2 that had a gag cameo of the First Class cast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Thursday at 08:25 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:25 PM 5 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: Deadpool used far superior versions of Colossus and Juggernaut because the X-Men movie versions sucked. It was Deadpool 2 that had a gag cameo of the First Class cast. He did use far superior versions, but I think they are just recast - it's the same Colossus and Juggernaut from the other films, but due to Days of Future Past all bets are off on them being exactly the same since the timeline was irrevocably altered after DOFP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remarkableriots 1,680 Posted Friday at 07:57 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:57 AM 11 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: He did use far superior versions, but I think they are just recast - it's the same Colossus and Juggernaut from the other films, but due to Days of Future Past all bets are off on them being exactly the same since the timeline was irrevocably altered after DOFP. The real headache inducing part is trying to figure out what year the movie is supposed to be set in. With the First Class team looking like they did in Apocalypse that would set the movie in the 80s. Yet Colossus was probably 21 or 22 in X2 which is set in 2003. He was just a student in that movie and in Deadpool 1+2 he's an X-Men member so is the movie supposed to be set later on? Very confusing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fizzzzle 1,129 Posted Friday at 04:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:36 PM 8 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: The real headache inducing part is trying to figure out what year the movie is supposed to be set in. With the First Class team looking like they did in Apocalypse that would set the movie in the 80s. Yet Colossus was probably 21 or 22 in X2 which is set in 2003. He was just a student in that movie and in Deadpool 1+2 he's an X-Men member so is the movie supposed to be set later on? Very confusing. Your first mistake is trying to make any kind of sense of a timeline for the X-Men movies. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greatoneshere 2,342 Posted Friday at 06:13 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:13 PM 10 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: The real headache inducing part is trying to figure out what year the movie is supposed to be set in. With the First Class team looking like they did in Apocalypse that would set the movie in the 80s. Yet Colossus was probably 21 or 22 in X2 which is set in 2003. He was just a student in that movie and in Deadpool 1+2 he's an X-Men member so is the movie supposed to be set later on? Very confusing. I'm just looking at broad strokeshere since even with DOFP trying to course correct things, the Fox X-Men universe has numerous holes in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silentbob 650 Posted Friday at 07:43 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:43 PM 3 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: Your first mistake is trying to make any kind of sense of a timeline for the X-Men movies. Deadpool even makes a joke in the first movie about it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remarkableriots 1,680 Posted Saturday at 07:06 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:06 AM It would be great to see Omega Red and/or Mr Sinister in the next Deadpool movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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