~*The Capitol Hill Beer Belly Putsch Official Thread*~

[Joe]

 

[Uaarkson]

3 hours ago, PaladinSolo said:

I’m telling you guys, the Republican Party is done for.

[Brick]

One way or another they better be! Republicans have been ruining America for the past 40 years at least! 

[Joe]

8 minutes ago, Brick said:

One way or another they better be! Republicans have been ruining America for the past 40 years at least! 

 

Don't assume the end of the GOP will be a good thing. It will most likely make things worse.

[Brick]

8 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

Don't assume the end of the GOP will be a good thing. It will most likely make things worse.

 

Possible. Depends on how things turn out. If the Republican party splinters into the more moderate Republicans like Romney, and a new conservative party that's all about Trump with people like Hawley, Cruz, Gaetz, etc., but the Democrats stay together, it could allow the Democrats to stay in power, and possibly gaining power of Republican voters are split. I mean if a State goes close to 50-50 on Democrat to Republican, but then goes 50-25-25 on Democrat to Republican to Trump the Democrats win the State. Imagine Texas going Blue because the Reds got split between Republican and Trump. 

[Joe]

9 minutes ago, Brick said:

 

Possible. Depends on how things turn out. If the Republican party splinters into the more moderate Republicans like Romney, and a new conservative party that's all about Trump with people like Hawley, Cruz, Gaetz, etc., but the Democrats stay together, it could allow the Democrats to stay in power, and possibly gaining power of Republican voters are split. I mean if a State goes close to 50-50 on Democrat to Republican, but then goes 50-25-25 on Democrat to Republican to Trump the Democrats win the State. Imagine Texas going Blue because the Reds got split between Republican and Trump. 

 

That's not the end of the GOP, though. 

[Brick]

3 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

That's not the end of the GOP, though. 

 

No, but it is of them being in power though. 

[Joe]

Just now, Brick said:

 

No, but it is of them being in power though. 

 

More likely scenario is that the new extra far right party replaces the GOP completely and this country gets even stupider.

[Uaarkson]

1 minute ago, Joe said:

 

More likely scenario is that the new extra far right party replaces the GOP completely and this country gets even stupider.

 

Who knows man. The demographics just aren't there to keep up the charade too much longer.

[CitizenVectron]

15 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

Don't assume the end of the GOP will be a good thing. It will most likely make things worse.

 

1 minute ago, Brick said:

 

Possible. Depends on how things turn out. If the Republican party splinters into the more moderate Republicans like Romney, and a new conservative party that's all about Trump with people like Hawley, Cruz, Gaetz, etc., but the Democrats stay together, it could allow the Democrats to stay in power, and possibly gaining power of Republican voters are split. I mean if a State goes close to 50-50 on Democrat to Republican, but then goes 50-25-25 on Democrat to Republican to Trump the Democrats win the State. Imagine Texas going Blue because the Reds got split between Republican and Trump. 

 

Things will be fucking great for one to two terms, as the Democrats will win every election thanks to the vote split. And then...things will get much, much worse. This exact situation has already happened to Canada, and it will likely happen in the US (but faster):

 

In the 1993 Canadian federal election, the Progressive Conservatives went from a majority (156 seats out of 295) to 2 fucking seats. This is because the rightest-wing of the party broke off into the Reform Party, massively splitting the vote. Huge chunks of the Progressive Conservatives also split off in Quebec to form the Bloc Quebecois. The Liberals ended up with a good majority out of it, and ended up winning 4 elections in a row as a result of this. It was a golden time in Canada (well, not really because there were massive cuts thanks to the previous mismanagement of the economy and finances). But the Liberals were in power from 1993 to 2006, ushering in large progressive social changes (such as legalization of gay marriage, etc) and the prevention of Quebec separation, etc. 

 

Result of the 1993 federal election: (vote %, seat count (out of 295)):

Liberals - 41.24% - 177

Reform - 18.69% - 52

Bloc - 13.52% - 54

NDP - 6.88% - 9

PCs - 16.04% - 2

 

Obviously votes move around and things can't be compared perfectly, especially for the Bloc, since some Liberals joined as well. But generally speaking, elements of the former Progressive Conservatives got 48.25% of the vote compared to the Liberals' 41.24%...and were destroyed because of the split. So that's a great thing, right? Sure, it was great for Chretien, who won three consecutive elections, followed by Paul Martin's one win. But during that time, the conservative element in Canada saw the writing on the wall: if they remained split, they would be stuck in opposition forever. The only solution was to merge everything back together. Only now, the Reform Party (then already changed into the Canadian Alliance) was stronger than the former Progressive Conservatives, who were a relic of a decade before. So when the merger happened, who do you think called the shots? The extremists.

 

What followed was Stephen Harper (under the new "Conservative Party" brand) winning three elections in a row, from 2006 to 2015. Now, Canada has the Liberals (who have shifted left to stave off the social democrat NDP) and the Conservatives, who are far more right-wing than their predecessors, and have only continued to shift right. So when the Conservatives win again (probably not the next election, but a decent chance after that), Canada will get a more right-wing government than it has before. 

 

The same thing will happen to the US. Sure, people will laugh as the Patriot Party (or whatever) causes the right-wing to split the vote and lose the Presidency and whatever else. But the aftermath will be the GOP coming crawling to the PP begging to be let in (wanting power), only now in the junior position. Then the next GOP/PP President/government after that will be more extreme than ever.

[marioandsonic]

2 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

More likely scenario is that the new extra far right party replaces the GOP completely and this country gets even stupider.

This is what I'm fearing is going to happen.  It's what happened with the Tea Party

[Uaarkson]

3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

The same thing will happen to the US. Sure, people will laugh as the Patriot Party (or whatever) causes the right-wing to split the vote and lose the Presidency and whatever else. But the aftermath will be the GOP coming crawling to the PP begging to be let in (wanting power), only now in the junior position. Then the next GOP/PP President/government after that will be more extreme than ever.

 

You really think these chuds could get elected in another 10 or 20 years? All the data shows society shifting left over time, and the only reason Republicans hold on to power is through cheating and corruption, in a system that already heavily favors them. Are there going to be enough beer-belly putschers left by the end of the decade to return them to power? I don't see it.

[MarSolo]

18 hours ago, Chairslinger said:

 

 

 

I haven't been following this thread closely.

 

Has anyone mentioned he looks like Saul Goodman's less talented older brother?

He looks nothing like Michael McKean!

[PaladinSolo]

 

[GeneticBlueprint]

2 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said:

 

 

Nah. Mitt is the only GOP-er in Utah that thinks like he does. The party has shifted away from him heavily. People here voted for him because they thought he was going to be another ass licker but he settled for boot licker.

[GeneticBlueprint]

Also, to her remarks about people joining the party: Many in Utah changed their voter registration to Republican so that they could vote for the "sane" "moderate" Governor Cox in the primary. Because there were some real fucking loons on the primary ballot. Just bonkers. And I will probably end up doing the same. In Utah, you don't need to be a registered Democrat to participate in the Democratic primary, but you do have to be a registered Republican to participate in theirs.

[GeneticBlueprint]

Mitt Romney accused of being ‘deep state’ agent in proposed censure motion

WWW.SLTRIB.COM

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A proposed censure of Sen. Mitt Romney accuses him of being a "deep state" agent for voting to convict former President Donald Trump in his second impeachment trial.

 

Also this. The Utah GOP doesn't believe a word of that statement.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

1 hour ago, Uaarkson said:

 

You really think these chuds could get elected in another 10 or 20 years? All the data shows society shifting left over time, and the only reason Republicans hold on to power is through cheating and corruption, in a system that already heavily favors them. Are there going to be enough beer-belly putschers left by the end of the decade to return them to power? I don't see it.

Voter suppression

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Uaarkson said:

 

You really think these chuds could get elected in another 10 or 20 years? All the data shows society shifting left over time, and the only reason Republicans hold on to power is through cheating and corruption, in a system that already heavily favors them. Are there going to be enough beer-belly putschers left by the end of the decade to return them to power? I don't see it.

People say this exact same thing about parties in decline all the time...and then things change and tides turn. There will always be liberals, conservatives, and people who want to be cool for not choosing a side.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

5 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

People say this exact same thing about parties in decline all the time...and then things change and tides turn. There will always be liberals, conservatives, and people who want to be cool for not choosing a side.

Especially when you're fueled by cultural greivance and not material concerns

[thewhyteboar]

2 hours ago, Uaarkson said:

 

You really think these chuds could get elected in another 10 or 20 years? All the data shows society shifting left over time, and the only reason Republicans hold on to power is through cheating and corruption, in a system that already heavily favors them. Are there going to be enough beer-belly putschers left by the end of the decade to return them to power? I don't see it.

Republicans have been doing everything they can to win power despite being a minority. And they are accomplishing this via voter suppression, gerrymandering, and the regressive way the Senate is apportioned. Our system is designed to let a minority party muck it all up. The fascist evangelical white supremacist American conservative won't be losing power anytime soon, sadly.

[SaysWho?]

2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

 

Things will be fucking great for one to two terms, as the Democrats will win every election thanks to the vote split. And then...things will get much, much worse. This exact situation has already happened to Canada, and it will likely happen in the US (but faster):

 

In the 1993 Canadian federal election, the Progressive Conservatives went from a majority (156 seats out of 295) to 2 fucking seats. This is because the rightest-wing of the party broke off into the Reform Party, massively splitting the vote. Huge chunks of the Progressive Conservatives also split off in Quebec to form the Bloc Quebecois. The Liberals ended up with a good majority out of it, and ended up winning 4 elections in a row as a result of this. It was a golden time in Canada (well, not really because there were massive cuts thanks to the previous mismanagement of the economy and finances). But the Liberals were in power from 1993 to 2006, ushering in large progressive social changes (such as legalization of gay marriage, etc) and the prevention of Quebec separation, etc. 

 

Result of the 1993 federal election: (vote %, seat count (out of 295)):

Liberals - 41.24% - 177

Reform - 18.69% - 52

Bloc - 13.52% - 54

NDP - 6.88% - 9

PCs - 16.04% - 2

 

Obviously votes move around and things can't be compared perfectly, especially for the Bloc, since some Liberals joined as well. But generally speaking, elements of the former Progressive Conservatives got 48.25% of the vote compared to the Liberals' 41.24%...and were destroyed because of the split. So that's a great thing, right? Sure, it was great for Chretien, who won three consecutive elections, followed by Paul Martin's one win. But during that time, the conservative element in Canada saw the writing on the wall: if they remained split, they would be stuck in opposition forever. The only solution was to merge everything back together. Only now, the Reform Party (then already changed into the Canadian Alliance) was stronger than the former Progressive Conservatives, who were a relic of a decade before. So when the merger happened, who do you think called the shots? The extremists.

 

What followed was Stephen Harper (under the new "Conservative Party" brand) winning three elections in a row, from 2006 to 2015. Now, Canada has the Liberals (who have shifted left to stave off the social democrat NDP) and the Conservatives, who are far more right-wing than their predecessors, and have only continued to shift right. So when the Conservatives win again (probably not the next election, but a decent chance after that), Canada will get a more right-wing government than it has before. 

 

The same thing will happen to the US. Sure, people will laugh as the Patriot Party (or whatever) causes the right-wing to split the vote and lose the Presidency and whatever else. But the aftermath will be the GOP coming crawling to the PP begging to be let in (wanting power), only now in the junior position. Then the next GOP/PP President/government after that will be more extreme than ever.

Nobody really knows what will happen even one year from now.

 

Let’s say at least the first part happens. Or this whole thing happens in totality. That would be many many years of being able to undo so much of the conservative sabotage to healthcare, and the ridiculous voting laws.

 

Telling me how bad it’s going to be doesn’t really stick because has the party at all been improving in the past 10, 20, 30 years? Continuing being worse is always the expectation until proven otherwise IMO.

[SuperSpreader]

GOP splitting will lead to more ability for Democratic infighting and probably a Dem split or Dems joining the centrist GOP. 

[Jason]

 

[SaysWho?]

Ouch:

 

 

[SaysWho?]

This is an actual quote from the letter written to him:

 

“Oh my, what a disappointment you are to us and to God!

You have lost the respect of Lou Dobbs, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and, most importantly...Mark Levin & Rush Limbaugh”

 

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Handwritten notes lmao

 

President Trump has done more for the american people in four years than the rino's and Dems have done in years lmao

[thewhyteboar]

 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

I just received a priority message from my DoD agency's leadership that any information of any type surrounding the events of January 6, 2021 should be immediately secured and the agency's information custodian should be informed as well as the DoD IG.

[Greatoneshere]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

 

 

[CitizenVectron]

This 100% feeds into the narrative on the right that the "true" America has been lost:

 

 

 

[Fizzzzle]

 

[Spork3245]

Looks like Chris Jericho's wife was at the Capital Riot:

Fans Call Out Chris Jericho's Wife For Being In Washington DC On Day Of Capitol Insurrection

WWW.RINGSIDENEWS.COM

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Chris Jericho said that he's not political, but then fans dug up plenty of records of him donating thousands of dollars to Donald Trump's campaign. It

 

"Break the walls down" indeed, Jericho.

[MarSolo]

Let them fight:

 

Trump unloads on McConnell, promises MAGA primary challengers

THEHILL.COM

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Former President Trump on Tuesday unloaded on Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and vowed to back challengers to lawmakers who have crossed him, foretelling a brutal...

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Let them die.