osxmatt Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: I think this is probably our best hope for the short term--the brands determine that a fascist takeover is too disruptive to business I'm sure they also withdrew donations from Republicans who support Trump after he tweeted in early April "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!" and then two weeks later armed insurrectionists stormed and occupied the Michigan state capitol building, around the same time it was announced six white nationalists plotted to kidnap and murder the Democratic Governor of Michigan. No? No they didn't? Ah well, nevertheless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 PGA will strip Trump Bedminster of 2022 PGA Championship, insider says WWW.NJ.COM The golf major will be moved, according to a report. Trump meets once again with consequences for his actions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Trump’s businesses need to be hurt by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, MarSolo said: Trump’s businesses need to be hurt by this. Thinking of finding Cruz corporate donors and making calls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 For all those who said that this insurection "Isn't us". On GPS: Precedents for the attack on the Capitol - CNN Video WWW.CNN.COM Preeminent historian Eric Foner tells Fareed about moments in America's history that serve as antecedents to the storming of the U.S. Capitol. This has happened before... and WORSE. Black Americans had more political power after the Civil War. Until armed White folks in the South took it back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 USCP officer Howard Liebengood committed suicide, several sources tell me and @bresreports— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 10, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley: take notes. Take the honorable path out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Rep. Ocasio-Cortez pushes back against some GOP lawmakers suggesting a second impeachment of Pres. Trump would threaten unity: "The process of healing is separate and in fact requires accountability... because without it, it will happen again." https://t.co/wbex0bS4Sb pic.twitter.com/6QcDczitua— ABC News (@ABC) January 10, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnny Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: no need to wait!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The stupidest part of "let's move on for unity lest we piss them off into doing something dangerous" is, what are they going to do? What they're already doing? It's amazing how even directly having their necks on the lines isn't convincing them to rush something through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 We shouldn’t have done the Nuremberg Trials, we should have moved on for unity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, MarSolo said: We shouldn’t have done the Nuremberg Trials, we should have moved on for unity. What we're seeing now is the payoff for pulling the plug on Reconstruction prematurely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jason said: The stupidest part of "let's move on for unity lest we piss them off into doing something dangerous" is, what are they going to do? What they're already doing? It's amazing how even directly having their necks on the lines isn't convincing them to rush something through. I think the calculation is that they think Republicans will drag it out and use it to obscure and slow down Biden’s execution of his ‘agenda’ in the crucial ‘first 100 days’ of his term and then swing voters will punish them for spending more energy impeaching a president who will no longer be president by the time the trial is done than on legislating on issues like healthcare, aid to deal with the pandemic, etc. I actually doubt they care all that much about further Trumpist retaliation/violence/etc. You could argue the latter is in fact politically helpful to them, and wouldn’t mind more ‘incidents’ that make Republicans look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: For all those who said that this insurection "Isn't us". On GPS: Precedents for the attack on the Capitol - CNN Video WWW.CNN.COM Preeminent historian Eric Foner tells Fareed about moments in America's history that serve as antecedents to the storming of the U.S. Capitol. This has happened before... and WORSE. Black Americans had more political power after the Civil War. Until armed White folks in the South took it back. I was embarrassingly ignorant of the extent to which this was true until I started reading Sundown Towns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jason said: The stupidest part of "let's move on for unity lest we piss them off into doing something dangerous" is, what are they going to do? What they're already doing? It's amazing how even directly having their necks on the lines isn't convincing them to rush something through. The same people calling to overthrow the election are asking for unity. Fuck them. Stamp them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: I think the calculation is that they think Republicans will drag it out and use it to obscure and slow down Biden’s execution of his ‘agenda’ in the crucial ‘first 100 days’ of his term and then swing voters will punish them for spending more energy impeaching a president who will no longer be president by the time the trial is done than on legislating on issues like healthcare, aid to deal with the pandemic, etc. I actually doubt they care all that much about further Trumpist retaliation/violence/etc. You could argue the latter is in fact politically helpful to them, and wouldn’t mind more ‘incidents’ that make Republicans look bad. They can do both. It doesn't require the entire Senate until the final vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: I think the calculation is that they think Republicans will drag it out and use it to obscure and slow down Biden’s execution of his ‘agenda’ in the crucial ‘first 100 days’ of his term and then swing voters will punish them for spending more energy impeaching a president who will no longer be president by the time the trial is done than on legislating on issues like healthcare, aid to deal with the pandemic, etc. I actually doubt they care all that much about further Trumpist retaliation/violence/etc. You could argue the latter is in fact politically helpful to them, and wouldn’t mind more ‘incidents’ that make Republicans look bad. I just don't see why Republicans aren't jumping on the chance to be rid of him. Sure, it will hurt them in the short and medium term, but the alternative is allowing the Trump infection to linger on and control the party literally until he dies. Even everything else aside it's crazy how he's suffering almost none of the stigma that Romney and McCain did for being losers. Bush won two elections and left office with more of a loser stink on him than Trump seems to be getting. A week after he nearly single handedly lost them the Senate and complete control of the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: I just don't see why Republicans aren't jumping on the chance to be rid of him. Sure, it will hurt them in the short and medium term, but the alternative is allowing the Trump infection to linger on and control the party literally until he dies. Even everything else aside it's crazy how he's suffering almost none of the stigma that Romney and McCain did for being losers. Bush won two elections and left office with more of a loser stink on him than Trump seems to be getting. A week after he nearly single handedly lost them the Senate and complete control of the government. Like Trump, they don't give a shit about the country or the party. They only care about themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: I just don't see why Republicans aren't jumping on the chance to be rid of him. Sure, it will hurt them in the short and medium term, but the alternative is allowing the Trump infection to linger on and control the party literally until he dies. Even everything else aside it's crazy how he's suffering almost none of the stigma that Romney and McCain did for being losers. Bush won two elections and left office with more of a loser stink on him than Trump seems to be getting. A week after he nearly single handedly lost them the Senate and complete control of the government. They think they can keep his voters, but don't realize they're irrational morons who will just put them on a list to be executed for not crowning Trump emperor, who will also spend the next 4 years destroying their party. The GOP is in for a really bad future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, Amazatron said: Like Trump, they don't give a shit about the country or the party. They only care about themselves. That's the thing, everything I said is in the context of doing the right thing for purely selfish, political reasons. It is in their interest to ditch him. Just now, PaladinSolo said: They think they can keep his voters, but don't realize they're irrational morons who will just put them on a list to be executed for not crowning Trump emperor, who will also spend the next 4 years destroying their party. The GOP is in for a really bad future. I guess maybe the thinking is in down ballot races they can still ride the tiger and his base will get them victories But man, they are gift wrapping the 2024 presidential election for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, Chairslinger said: That's the thing, everything I said is in the context of doing the right thing for purely selfish, political reasons. It is in their interest to ditch him. I guess maybe the thinking is in down ballot races they can still ride the tiger and his base will get them victories But man, they are gift wrapping the 2024 presidential election for him. Its not a good plan, but its a party devoid of any intellectual debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, PaladinSolo said: Its not a good plan, but its a party devoid of any intellectual debate. The most pathetic thing is guys like Hawley and Cruz desperately debasing themselves to go along with this shit, hoping for the Trump baton in 2024. And all it will take is a whim and literally one conversation where Ivanka sits on daddy's lap and does the spoiled daughter routine, "But daaaaad, I wanna be the president." And that's all it will take to make her the GOP nominee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: CW: violence This is the moment Officer Brian Sicknick is dragged into a mob and beaten, ultimately dying from his wounds. They dragged him from cover, stripped him of his protection, then left him to die. You can watch them take his helmet and vest. Truly barbaric. pic.twitter.com/ocJ2Bzg5Cm — Bryan Giardinelli 🥸📸 (@BreatheNewWinds) January 10, 2021 deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It certainly fits the narrative that you're a racist piece of shit! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: For all those who said that this insurection "Isn't us". On GPS: Precedents for the attack on the Capitol - CNN Video WWW.CNN.COM Preeminent historian Eric Foner tells Fareed about moments in America's history that serve as antecedents to the storming of the U.S. Capitol. This has happened before... and WORSE. Black Americans had more political power after the Civil War. Until armed White folks in the South took it back. Eric Foner has forgotten more about American history than most of us will ever know. He's one of those "if he speaks, you shut up" kind of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: deleted Apparently, it's not video of the killed police officer. It's video of them attacking and beating *another* police officer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Based. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Which raises questions about how serious the injuries are for some of the other injured officers which as far as I know there have been absolutely no updates about from the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Frank Luntz and his focus groups can go to you know where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 can you imagine if a cop sustained a bruised pinky from a BLM protest? Fox News wouldn't shut up about it for a month. Yet 5 days later, we're just hearing about cops who fucking died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Oh good Christ: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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