CitizenVectron Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: Wait, what? Trump Says States He's Losing Are Just Dumb: 'We're Winning Everywhere Where People Are Intelligent' WWW.MEDIAITE.COM In a remarkably nontraditional bit of political rhetoric, President Donald Trump appeared to insult the very constituents of the states where he is down in the polls. Imagine, just for a second, how the media would have reacted if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (or Joe Biden) had said that 1/2 the states were dumb because they weren't voting for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Trump Says States He's Losing Are Just Dumb: 'We're Winning Everywhere Where People Are Intelligent' WWW.MEDIAITE.COM In a remarkably nontraditional bit of political rhetoric, President Donald Trump appeared to insult the very constituents of the states where he is down in the polls. Imagine, just for a second, how the media would have reacted if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (or Joe Biden) had said that 1/2 the states were dumb because they weren't voting for them. It's not just something they let Trump in particular get away with though. Imagine if any Democratic politician said anything remotely close about red states and their inhabitants that Republican politicians routinely say about blue states and their inhabitants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, osxmatt said: It’s hard to quantify just how damaging it is to our politics that NBC is hosting this town hall. It’s truly disgusting. There must be some between the scenes limitation, but the CPD should have held a town hall with Joe Biden and called it a fucking day. I think as long as the moderator and the audience hold Trump accountable, it will be worthwhile. Frankly, I'd rather watch the Trump town hall for this aspect alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Imagine, just for a second, how the media would have reacted if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (or Joe Biden) had said that 1/2 the states were dumb because they weren't voting for them. I don't have to imagine, this is how Clinton's deplorables comment was treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Oh and this trump town hall will almost certainly backfire. Bigly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jason said: It's not just something they let Trump in particular get away with though. Imagine if any Democratic politician said anything remotely close about red states and their inhabitants that Republican politicians routinely say about blue states and their inhabitants. Remember when Hillary was repeatedly raked over the coals for calling Trump's supporters "deplorables"? EDIT: DAMN IT ANA YOU BEAT ME TO IT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: I think as long as the moderator and the audience hold Trump accountable, it will be worthwhile. Frankly, I'd rather watch the Trump town hall for this aspect alone. It’s not possible to hold Trump accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 You assholes will be glad to know I dropped off my ballot today, and I voted for Biden. The first time I've voted for a Democrat for President. Sorry Jo, maybe I'll vote Libertarian again in 2024. 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: You assholes will be glad to know I dropped off my ballot today, and I voted for Biden. The first time I've voted for a Democrat for President. Sorry Jo, maybe I'll vote Libertarian again in 2024. You live in Nevada which is sort of a swing state. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: You assholes will be glad to know I dropped off my ballot today, and I voted for Biden. The first time I've voted for a Democrat for President. Sorry Jo, maybe I'll vote Libertarian again in 2024. And people say arguing over the internet is pointless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 It's sort of like one of those comic book plots where enemies have to join forces over a story arc in order to defeat some galactic super villain. Don't expect the relationship between the enemies to last. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, mclumber1 said: It's sort of like one of those comic book plots where enemies have to join forces over a story arc in order to defeat some galactic super villain. Don't expect the relationship between the enemies to last. What about the time Dock Oc actually became Spider-Man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: It's sort of like one of those comic book plots where enemies have to join forces over a story arc in order to defeat some galactic super villain. Don't expect the relationship between the enemies to last. Moving forward we're definitely going to need a board libertarian to poke fun at and I can't think of anyone I would rather have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 There is no way @mclumber1 will be harder on a Biden presidency than those on this board who are of a far more "hard left" persuasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Now I want to see a bunch of polls about how tonight went. I hope Biden's numbers keep going up for reassurance for my sanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: There is no way @mclumber1 will be harder on a Biden presidency than those on this board who are of a far more "hard left" persuasion. Probably true. This board is full of angsty leftists who will be angrily disappointed by Biden's constant drive towards the center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Probably true. This board is full of angsty leftists who will be angrily disappointed by Biden's constant drive towards the center. Meanwhile, everyone on Fox News will act like he's the second coming of Stalin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: It's sort of like one of those comic book plots where enemies have to join forces over a story arc in order to defeat some galactic super villain. Don't expect the relationship between the enemies to last. Would it be a nice gesture of bi-partisanship if, in the event of a Trump win, I borrowed one of your guns to shoot myself with? Or is it just weird? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Would it be a nice gesture of bi-partisanship if, in the event of a Trump win, I borrowed one of your guns to shoot myself with? Or is it just weird? Only of you do a background check first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Meanwhile, everyone on Fox News will act like he's the second coming of Stalin. Both named Joe, there's something to this theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, mclumber1 said: You assholes will be glad to know I dropped off my ballot today, and I voted for Biden. The first time I've voted for a Democrat for President. Sorry Jo, maybe I'll vote Libertarian again in 2024. It’s the right call. I plan on criticizing him a lot as well, but I will not miss Trump. The Democrats got my vote this time, but only because the nation can’t afford this GOP and Biden as the nominee helps. I am not swearing allegiance to them and I imagine that many here will eventually get their wish and they will veer so far left I won’t be able to stomach supporting them in the future. My hope is republicans losing by a landslide and losing again in 2022 may make them change course somewhat, but it’s impossible to predict what a post Trump GOP would be like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, Massdriver said: It’s the right call. I plan on criticizing him a lot as well, but I will not miss Trump. The Democrats got my vote this time, but only because the nation can’t afford this GOP and Biden as the nominee helps. I am not swearing allegiance to them and I imagine that many here will eventually get their wish and they will veer so far left I won’t be able to stomach supporting them in the future. My hope is republicans losing by a landslide and losing again in 2022 may make them change course somewhat, but it’s impossible to predict what a post Trump GOP would be like. Nothing short of denazification is going to fix the GOP at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, Massdriver said: It’s the right call. I plan on criticizing him a lot as well, but I will not miss Trump. The Democrats got my vote this time, but only because the nation can’t afford this GOP and Biden as the nominee helps. I am not swearing allegiance to them and I imagine that many here will eventually get their wish and they will veer so far left I won’t be able to stomach supporting them in the future. My hope is republicans losing by a landslide and losing again in 2022 may make them change course somewhat, but it’s impossible to predict what a post Trump GOP would be like. 14 minutes ago, Jason said: Nothing short of denazification is going to fix the GOP at this point. When has the GOP ever lost and not said "It's because we weren't conservative enough." ? A new conservative party seems more likely to happen than for the GOP to moderate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Massdriver said: It’s the right call. I plan on criticizing him a lot as well, but I will not miss Trump. The Democrats got my vote this time, but only because the nation can’t afford this GOP and Biden as the nominee helps. I am not swearing allegiance to them and I imagine that many here will eventually get their wish and they will veer so far left I won’t be able to stomach supporting them in the future. My hope is republicans losing by a landslide and losing again in 2022 may make them change course somewhat, but it’s impossible to predict what a post Trump GOP would be like. I thought the GOP was going to be back in control of both branches of Congress by then if Biden wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 The only thing different between today's Republicans and those from the 80's is tone and the naked authoritarianism/contempt for democracy. Policy wise it's the same fucking party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 hours ago, mclumber1 said: Probably true. This board is full of angsty leftists who will be angrily disappointed by Biden's constant drive towards the center. Not disappointed. But expected. Everyone's worried about so many things, but should Biden win, I'm more concerned how stupid the opposition to him will get and if they're gonna begin with compromised center-right positions. I already naively thought once that maybe Republicans would change course, but that was in 2008/2009 that I thought this and the rest is history. It would be nice to shake up Democratic leadership, though. And balance the judges nationwide. I think for their long-term health, a criminal justice bill and a DREAM Act would help solidify the base considering young African-Americans are Democratic but not to the same extent as older African-Americans. And at this point, since he's running on a public option, they really do need to pass a public option and nothing less than that. He might fall short on all of that, or maybe he'll surprise people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 I do think it's a good reminder that taking part in democracy is not just an election year thing. I hope people are willing to fight for ideas during a possible Biden presidency and not just in opposition to a possible Trump 2nd term. I do wonder what new Republican "stars" appear the next few years. It was nice when Obama's first term began and nobody knew who Scott Walker, Rick Scott, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Chris Christie, Ron Johnson, Ted Cruz, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, and Rick Perry were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: I do think it's a good reminder that taking part in democracy is not just an election year thing. I hope people are willing to fight for ideas during a possible Biden presidency and not just in opposition to a possible Trump 2nd term. I do wonder what new Republican "stars" appear the next few years. It was nice when Obama's first term began and nobody knew who Scott Walker, Rick Scott, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Chris Christie, Ron Johnson, Ted Cruz, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, and Rick Perry were. They're going to be from QAnon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Let's get that up to +25 before election day and maybe I can unclench for a few minutes for the first time in four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Let's get that up to +25 before election day and maybe I can unclench for a few minutes for the first time in four years. Unclench, my dead, unclench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Joe said: Unclench, my dead, unclench. God, I love speech-to-text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I assume we have to wait until early next week to see the polling impact of the town hall events? I don't know how they will say who "won", since the two didn't appear on stage together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 This dude must be old 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.