CitizenVectron Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Trump has released the raw footage of the 60 minutes interview: lol, and he thinks this footage makes him look good? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BloodyHell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: And most people have 0 to do with these extractive jobs! Traditional dems do have a problem with rural working class/Appalachian/extractive industry (read: largely white) workers. When your answer to their problems is "retraining(lol)/move/good luck" then yeah you're gonna fight hard for what little you have, not considering cultural issues. When neither party really has a plan for your economic well-being, you go with the group that you culturally are fine with! And it's going to take a lot of work to overcome a generation+ of neglect. Unlike most I don't think rural whites are lost to Republicans forever--what works for them is what works for everyone in the working class. But you're not going to get that with neoliberal "learn to be a nurse" or "learn to code" discourse or policy No, I’d say you go with the one who isn’t maligning you and calling for an end to the only career you’ve ever known. Of course there are absolutely cultural issues added on to this. My point is that democrats and environmentalists have had horrible messaging on this issue. I regularly see these people fighting to close places that employ part or whole of small communities. Its why climate denial was such a strong tactic for the GOP and corporate America. Because when average rural Americans hear the left openly saying “we don’t care about your jobs”, they hear “we don’t care if your family eats, if you can pay your mortgage or not, or if you can afford to send your kids to college”. Economically depressed people aren’t thinking rationally. Every day is a struggle and they focus their anger on what they see as “entitled leftists who have never struggled”. And of course the GOP is happy to jump on that. 19 minutes ago, Massdriver said: This is referring to the original. the original never used “fracking” as a term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: No, I’d say you go with the one who isn’t maligning you and calling for an end to the only career you’ve ever known. Of course there are absolutely cultural issues added on to this. My point is that democrats and environmentalists have had horrible messaging on this issue. I regularly see these people fighting to close places that employ part or whole of small communities. Its why climate denial was such a strong tactic for the GOP and corporate America. Because when average rural Americans hear the left openly saying “we don’t care about your jobs”, they hear “we don’t care if your family eats, if you can pay your mortgage or not, or if you can afford to send your kids to college”. Economically depressed people aren’t thinking rationally. Every day is a struggle and they focus their anger on what they see as “entitled leftists who have never struggled”. And of course the GOP is happy to jump on that. the original never used “fracking” as a term. I don't disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: For a man who cosplays as a tough guy, Trump sure whines a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Definitely won't come up in a debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Definitely won't come up in a debate. Oh shit, is that clown show tonight ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Oh shit, is that clown show tonight ? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Trump won kansas by 21% four years ago. Not a great result. Had a bigger drop in an oklahoma poll released yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Trump has released the raw footage of the 60 minutes interview: lol, and he thinks this footage makes him look good? I made it 2 minutes and had to turn it off. It's just unfathomable and unforgivable that anyone could support this man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Will Joe Manchin Ruin Democrats’ Best Chance to Fight Climate Change? NEWREPUBLIC.COM The West Virginian senator has a mixed record. The key to getting his support for ambitious environmental policy lies with his constituents. Timely article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, BloodyHell said: Nobody suffered through it. Its beloved by both fandom and critics. The ending wasn’t great, but it didn’t destroy the whole show or anything, like GoT did. Counterpoint: the ending WAS great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, Anathema- said: Counterpoint: the ending WAS great. I mean, I thought parts of it were actually really great, but as a whole didn’t love it. I especially loved starbucks ending, and the final scene with the “angels”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Starbuck's story end is the only part I didn't like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, osxmatt said: I made it 2 minutes and had to turn it off. It's just unfathomable and unforgivable that anyone could support this man. Yet half the internet is praising him and acting like asking hard questions and pushing for answers is unacceptable. People are gone mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Starbuck's story end is the only part I didn't like I still think the finale could have been much better received by just cutting to credits after the camera pulls back on the wide shot of Adam sitting next to Roslin's grave. Instead of ending on a powerful note they end on that goofy Times Square scene, which just serves to give you time to think about your problems with the finale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Starbuck's story end is the only part I didn't like What about the part where some of the crew and civilians wished to continue living with modern tech, but instead of letting them fly off to explore other worlds, BSG flew all their ships into the sun and cast them into primitive squalor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: What about the part where some of the crew and civilians wished to continue living with modern tech, but instead of letting them fly off to explore other worlds, BSG flew all their ships into the sun and cast them into primitive squalor? 🤷♂️ It was the best decision in all four seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: I still think the finale could have been much better received by just cutting to credits after the camera pulls back on the wide shot of Adam sitting next to Roslin's grave. Instead of ending on a powerful note they end on that goofy Times Square scene, which just serves to give you time to think about your problems with the finale. Editing is a big part of dramatic tension and I think I do agree that a smash cut to the title card would work better and you could still keep the final scene as a true epilogue. 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: What about the part where some of the crew and civilians wished to continue living with modern tech, but instead of letting them fly off to explore other worlds, BSG flew all their ships into the sun and cast them into primitive squalor? It was part of the statement that the show was making. I mean I guess I could comment on my opinion of the action but it would be a reflection of my view on the ethics not on the quality of the writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Editing is a big part of dramatic tension and I think I do agree that a smash cut to the title card would work better and you could still keep the final scene as a true epilogue. It was part of the statement that the show was making. I mean I guess I could comment on my opinion of the action but it would be a reflection of my view on the ethics not on the quality of the writing. I get that...but it was executed very poorly. The message is that technology was a mistake...except it was inevitable that technology would be developed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BloodyHell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: I get that...but it was executed very poorly. The message is that technology was a mistake...except it was inevitable that technology would be developed again. They knew it would be developed again. I think they even say it. They just felt it was best to start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: So im supposed to be mad a private citizen was negotiating a deal, while his father wasn’t even in office? They are really bad at this shit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Didn't the FBI say that as far as they're aware the laptop's not part of a Russian disinfo op? I don't think that line of argument works very well anymore in light of that. The stress should be on how he was out of the White House when it went down, and not VP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Same vibe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 http://www.reuters.com//article/_next/static/images/favicon-196x196-052cc719f1ac872e3544e51801338b46.png More than 47 million ballots cast in U.S. election, eclipsing 2016 early turnout | Reuters WWW.REUTERS.COM U.S. voters have cast more than 47 million votes for the Nov. 3 presidential election, eclipsing total early voting from the 2016 election with 12 days to go, according to data compiled by the U.S. Elections Project. Holy cow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Where are those double digits!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: http://in.mobile.reuters.com//resources_v3/images/favicon/apple-touch-icon-180x180.png More than 47 million ballots cast in U.S. election, eclipsing 2016 early turnout IN.MOBILE.REUTERS.COM U.S. voters have cast more than 47 million votes for the Nov. 3 presidential election, eclipsing total early voting from the 2016 election with 12 days to go, according to... Holy cow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 For reference, there were 47 million early ballots in total for the entire 2016 election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: I get that...but it was executed very poorly. The message is that technology was a mistake...except it was inevitable that technology would be developed again. That... was the whole point of the story? I think you misunderstood the message. It's not that tech was a mistake it's that our tech capability far outpaced our societal evolution. Adama literally says this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Massdriver said: Where are those double digits!? Remember polls screen out people who already vote. If the early vote is lopsided toward Biden there are going to be fewer of his supporters out there to poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 http://thehill.com//apple-touch-icon.png North Carolina man arrested with van full of guns and explosives, had THEHILL.COM A North Carolina man who was indicted last month on charges of child pornograp Judy hy also had plans to commit a mass shooting during the holidays and assassinate... Wanted to kill Biden (and whoever else), and then escape to Canada, which makes no sense. Like Canada wouldn’t send him back? ”We’re sorry America, we know he killed your next president, but we can’t give him back. You’ll be mean to him, we can’t have that!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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