Ghost_MH Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jason said: Watch him call up Farage to cook up some bullshit "legit" reason for him to be there. He's going to argue that Aberdeen counts as one of his homes and he should be allowed to go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brick Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I can't help but wonder if and how the election results would be different if the pandemic wasn't a thing that happened and 300 thousand Americans didn't die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Brick said: I can't help but wonder if and how the election results would be different if the pandemic wasn't a thing that happened and 300 thousand Americans didn't die. Given the % of dead that were Trump voters, I shudder to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: Given the % of dead that were Trump voters, I shudder to think. Then the Democrats could pull a page from the republican playbook and complain about dead people voting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 41 minutes ago, Brick said: I can't help but wonder if and how the election results would be different if the pandemic wasn't a thing that happened and 300 thousand Americans didn't die. Landslide for Trump. Great economy despite Trump’s craziness. Biden would have had no chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, MarSolo said: Landslide for Trump. Great economy despite Trump’s craziness. Biden would have had no chance. The fed pumping billions into the stock market artificially inflating the economy. But yeah, if Covid didn’t happen, or Trump actually treated it seriously, he’d have trounced Biden. Sad as that is. Biden and Dems would have been able to mobilize a better ground game had it not been for Covid, which may have closed the gap a bit, but there wouldn’t be as much hatred of Trump or fear of his second term to energize enough Dems to actually get off their ass and vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I wonder if Biden would even still have been the Democrat nominee had the virus not been a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, MarSolo said: Landslide for Trump. Great economy despite Trump’s craziness. Biden would have had no chance. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, MarSolo said: Landslide for Trump. Great economy despite Trump’s craziness. Biden would have had no chance. Which is a scary statement of the identity of the nation or the overall apathy with regards to the folks in charge... Covid or mo Covid there are hundreds of reasons for Trump to have been voted out.. maybe this racist corrupt hateful mess is who America really is? Its just on the surface now? I hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I think covid changed the magnitude of the number of votes cast but ultimately didn't change much in terms of the results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trump-lawyer-cleta-mitchell-out-at-law-firm-after-georgia-call 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 hours ago, MarSolo said: Landslide for Trump. Great economy despite Trump’s craziness. Biden would have had no chance. 2 hours ago, Brick said: I wonder if Biden would even still have been the Democrat nominee had the virus not been a thing. 1 hour ago, Comet said: Agreed. Biden was soaring way ahead of Bernie before this whole virus/lockdown thing started, so Biden was going to be our nominee, and his "return to normal" thing obviously connected with Democrats. As far as the election, Trump was as popular on Election Day as he was prior to the pandemic. And I don't mean personal popularity; I mean approval ratings. There's not much difference at all between March and November. When we talk about how the election would have gone had the virus not been a thing, we begin with a faulty premise. The premise should be, "If Trump was halfway competent, would he have won?" New Zealand's prime minister won reelection in a landslide. And his approval rating went up somewhat in late March when the lockdowns began. What killed him wasn't the virus; it was the fact that he did as good a job handling the pandemic as he did everything else in his presidency. Meaning he sucked and people were tired of listening to his voice anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 As I said in my elated rant much, MUCH earlier in this thread, Trump would have won if he actually listened to the smart people in the room for once in his life and took the coronavirus seriously. But of course he failed, and it's thanks to him that wearing a mask during a fucking pandemic is now considered a political statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: When we talk about how the election would have gone had the virus not been a thing, we begin with a faulty premise. The premise should be, "If Trump was halfway competent, would he have won?" New Zealand's prime minister won reelection in a landslide. And his approval rating went up somewhat in late March when the lockdowns began. What killed him wasn't the virus; it was the fact that he did as good a job handling the pandemic as he did everything else in his presidency. Meaning he sucked and people were tired of listening to his voice anyway. I always like to game out "what would have happened under a president Hillary" and the odds of her getting a fourth impeachment and near conviction in a 58-42 senate over, say, 10,000 dead due to covid just seems about right on the nose to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chollowa Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Firewithin said: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trump-lawyer-cleta-mitchell-out-at-law-firm-after-georgia-call It looks like she resigned to pursue her personal interests. She's probably a star now in Trump-land and she can now cash in on the grift like Jenna, Sydney, Lin and Rudy have been doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 "GOP loyalists" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 2 hours ago, 5timechamp said: Which is a scary statement of the identity of the nation or the overall apathy with regards to the folks in charge... Covid or mo Covid there are hundreds of reasons for Trump to have been voted out.. maybe this racist corrupt hateful mess is who America really is? Its just on the surface now? I hope not No maybe about it. I'm shocked you still have any doubts. We're a young society with very little of our own actual culture, and a brutal history we would rather ignore than reckon with. America is all about "Fuck you, I got mine." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: Biden was soaring way ahead of Bernie before this whole virus/lockdown thing started, so Biden was going to be our nominee, and his "return to normal" thing obviously connected with Democrats. As far as the election, Trump was as popular on Election Day as he was prior to the pandemic. And I don't mean personal popularity; I mean approval ratings. There's not much difference at all between March and November. When we talk about how the election would have gone had the virus not been a thing, we begin with a faulty premise. The premise should be, "If Trump was halfway competent, would he have won?" New Zealand's prime minister won reelection in a landslide. And his approval rating went up somewhat in late March when the lockdowns began. What killed him wasn't the virus; it was the fact that he did as good a job handling the pandemic as he did everything else in his presidency. Meaning he sucked and people were tired of listening to his voice anyway. were they tired though? arent the millions of votes tied in to his sale of Covid19 not being that serious.. that the need for masks was a hoax and an attack on freedom? I associate his handling of the virus as being right in line with what hes been peddling the entire time... so he didnt mishandle it as much as he did as expected as his base votes showed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 28 minutes ago, 5timechamp said: were they tired though? arent the millions of votes tied in to his sale of Covid19 not being that serious.. that the need for masks was a hoax and an attack on freedom? I associate his handling of the virus as being right in line with what hes been peddling the entire time... so he didnt mishandle it as much as he did as expected as his base votes showed.. His base is irrelevant. The whole point of a base is to have a base of support that you build on; they’re not going anywhere. On the other hand, there are 81 million reasons why people were sick of him. His approval ratings were relatively stable. That means that a lot of people wanted him gone back then, and a lot of people were part of a cult. Unfortunately for the latter, they were significantly more people who want him gone forever than not. The fact that there is no difference between early March and early November is evidence of this. He did nothing during the pandemic to convince most of America he deserved to be in the White House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LazyPiranha Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I have no doubt that without COVID we’d have four more years of Trump if for no other reason than mail in voting would have been a fraction of what it turned out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Meanwhile, as the GOP loses hold on the Senate, Trump has put out a statement declaring that, contrary to reports, he is NOT OWNED, and dated it as "January 5, 2020" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Runoff is over, impeach the mother fucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Runoff is over, impeach the mother fucker lmao. Imagine getting impeached (a second time) and removed days before the end of your term, like a BITCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Runoff is over, impeach the mother fucker Fuck yes. Do it do it do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I doubt you could get Pelosi and Shumer on board with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Trump doesnt care... hit him where it hurts... charge his kids for their BS... then expose all his corruption and ruin him in the eyes of his fanatics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: lmao. Imagine getting impeached (a second time) and removed days before the end of your term, like a BITCH They should remove Pence too so Pelosi can be President for a week and no longer speaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Also they need 2/3 Senate to remove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Who cares do it anyway this shit is unacceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Who cares do it anyway this shit is unacceptable 100% There's also enormous strategic value in grinding everything to a halt with impeachment until the 20th. Just have the House vote on it and then send it to Chuck and just fucking dick around with hearings until the 20th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Who cares do it anyway this shit is unacceptable Exactly. It's the right thing to do. This administration is riddled with criminals and they need to be held to account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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