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Joe Biden beats Donald Trump, officially making Trump a one-term twice impeached, twice popular-vote losing president

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marioandsonic

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1 hour ago, SaysWho? said:

 

Legend is right that people are talking past each other. This is a good example.

 

In 2017, I was laughed at and sometimes mocked for suggesting that Democrats were set to make big gains in fall 2017 and 2018 based on the huge swings in social elections. "LOL MORAL VICTORIES" this and "LOL AT DOUG JONES POSSIBLY WINNING" that. As usual, Wade was the only one who put his money where his mouth is. But nothing good was going to happen because nothing matters and whatever SNL lines people were reciting.

 

In 2019 and 2020, it was all about how Trump would successfully steal the election, from the same people who said Hillary was so bad she lost to Trump of all people. We went from that to Trump organizing a well oiled machine that would have him remain president forever. No self reflection as to the contradiction.

 

Every positive piece of news in the lead up to the election was met with a creative and usually ridiculous cartoony plan Trump would hatch. There was no discussion about anything but that.

 

The only time worries made sense to consume the board was election night during Florida. And even then there were some positive signs.

 

At a certain point, people gave themselves anxiety for no reason. The idea that those of us who were trying to cool the ridiculous theories about every facet of not just the election, but the world for the past two years, weren't affected at all or didn't know anyone affected, is as ridiculous as the constant doom and gloom. I think @MarSolo said of one of my posts about the good things I've seen in the past four years that it could make for a great pep talk. End of the day, sulking and doom posting relieves no tension and destroys the discourse for every other topic on the board.

 

I'm not going to disagree with this, as I was one of these people. 

 

But what i will say is that me being all doom and gloom and cynical isn't just with politics.  I feel that way about nearly every aspect in my life.

 

I don't want to get too personal, but in the spring, I am planning to meet up with a friend of mine that I haven't seen in person in 4 years.  This is a person that I have known for over a decade, so we know each other pretty much inside and out.  But I'm still anxious about anything and everything that can go wrong.  Maybe my car will die on my on the way there.  Maybe I'll make a complete ass of myself.  Maybe she'll just get bored of me and realize I'm not an interesting person to be around (or even find me straight up repulsive).

 

Does any of that make sense when I've known her for over a decade, and vice-versa?  Hell no.  Am I still going to have these kinds of thoughts every day for the next few months?  Hell yes.

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3 minutes ago, marioandsonic said:

 

I'm not going to disagree with this, as I was one of these people. 

 

But what i will say is that me being all doom and gloom and cynical isn't just with politics.  I feel that way about nearly every aspect in my life.

 

I don't want to get too personal, but in the spring, I am planning to meet up with a friend of mine that I haven't seen in person in 4 years.  This is a person that I have known for over a decade, so we know each other pretty much inside and out.  But I'm still anxious about anything and everything that can go wrong.  Maybe my car will die on my on the way there.  Maybe I'll make a complete ass of myself.  Maybe she'll just get bored of me and realize I'm not an interesting person to be around (or even find me straight up repulsive).

 

Does any of that make sense when I've known her for over a decade, and vice-versa?  Hell no.  Am I still going to have these kinds of thoughts every day for the next few months?  Hell yes.

 

I put you in a different category entirely from Jason. Everyone has known about your issues to the extent that you've been willing to share them. But just to make the term toxic by beating it to death, you're not "dunking" on people for trying to lower the temperature.

 

End of the day, I was actually diagnosed with GAD, so I understand uncontrollable anxiety, and I understand coping mechanisms. So I feel comfortable in telling people that the constant jacking off to doom porn isn't helpful for themselves and isn't healthy with which to consume all of the conversations here.

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On 10/30/2020 at 6:43 PM, Squeesnightmare said:

 

As someone else who only lurks (to an unhealthy degree), I can't say I've really seen evidence of any sort of "silencing campaign". If anything, people otherwise saying "No matter what, Trump will probably remain president (somehow)" seem to be in a majority. If not, they're quite vocal. 

 

This place has been very dramatic, and I almost feel like some users thrive off the chaos. "Nothing matters!" seems to have been the unofficial slogan of this board for at least the past year. It can become overwhelming, and without calling anyone out personally, it does seem to be impacting some users negatively. 

 

I think everyone is wary of what Trump might try to pull, but until it happens it's not "news", it's wild speculation.... and it's been speculated, constantly. If anything, I'd say it's harder to be optimistic about a Biden win around here. I, personally, don't see what good it does to "constantly redress" when the only purpose it serves it to cause anxiety. 

 

But hey, what the hell do I know? 

 

Quoting this amazing post because it's from someone who lurks. What Fright and I are talking about was very much perceptible to someone who mainly reads the posts on this board.

 

Again, this mentality is toxic and it stokes peoples fears and anxieties up needlessly. I'm fine with attributing it to Trump trauma, but I sincerely hope that we can all be more optimistic or at least rational moving forward.

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1 hour ago, SaysWho? said:

I forgot who said it here, but the reasoning is likely that the founders thought people from their club would end up being president. THE GENIUS OF THE FOUNDERS

 

That was me and I stand by it. The founders just assumed that wealthy land owners would be the only ones voting and the only ones with enough time and money to running for office, travel around, and getting themselves spoken about in the paper. That's why they were initially ok with having the runner up in elections serve as the vice president. It was almost a hundred years later before poor people were even allowed to vote in every state.

 

Some random founder, "There's no way any Senator would ever besmirch his name in such manner. If they did, nobody would ever invite them to tea again. They'd be barred from all the best coffee houses in New York."

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1 hour ago, Joe said:

He never actually reads the posts he respond to. That's why he came into the Election Night thread thinking Kansas was a possibility because early vote counts even though you had been posting polls daily for months straight.

 

:rolleyes: I believe I said I was going off of Kansas having elected a Democratic governor in 2018, and I definitely very explicitly asked if there was something I was missing about which areas were reporting early or anything like that.

 

You're absurdly fucking reaching if you think that's a bona fide example of me being clueless.

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1 hour ago, Ghost_MH said:

That was me and I stand by it. The founders just assumed that wealthy land owners would be the only ones voting and the only ones with enough time and money to running for office, travel around, and getting themselves spoken about in the paper.

 

They didn't just assume that, it was explicit. Many of our current structural issues are the result of the vestiges of our system that has this notion at its root. 

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24 minutes ago, Anathema- said:

They didn't just assume that, it was explicit. Many of our current structural issues are the result of the vestiges of our system that has this notion at its root. 

 

Well yes, but I mean that they never assumed it would go beyond that. A lot of the things we do are built around how they worked a few hundred years ago. Electors traveling out to Congress to report their states' election results make perfect sense when you can't pick up a phone. We, as a nation, just have refused to update any of it. We live in a nice old, Victorian house with drafty windows that's costs a fortune to upkeep because we don't want to get rid of the old, warped glass.

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3 hours ago, Uaarkson said:

The doomposting was better than arguing about the doomposting.

Agreed

I dont really agree with all the doom posting but I also dont give a enough of a fuck to argue about.

26 minutes ago, johnny said:

This is why people leave the fucking boards 

Wade needs to add a sticky to the front page that reads "occasionally our threads derail into what can only be described as syphilitic monkey hurling feces at one another until they tire them selves out"

 

3 hours ago, Anathema- said:

You know, it's quite possible for Jason to be annoying as hell

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3 hours ago, Anathema- said:

and also right

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8 minutes ago, SimpleG said:

Wade needs to add a sticky to the front page that reads "occasionally our threads derail into what can only be described as syphilitic monkey hurling feces at one another until they tire them selves out"

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Also, pizza. It's like Godwin's law but with Mussolini instead of Hitler. The longer a thread goes on, the more likely pizza is to come up.

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3 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

 

Also, pizza. It's like Godwin's law but with Mussolini instead of Hitler. The longer a thread goes on, the more likely pizza is to come up.

my favorite pizza ever has pineapple on it. It has a white sauce (spinach and smoked gouda), grilled pineapple,  chicken, and ham. If you're ever in Athens Ga, check out DePalma's.

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20 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

So there are reports Trump will announce his 2024 run during Biden’s inauguration.

 

Question: do you think his appeal will last long enough to get to the primaries or will the Republicans want someone else?  I mean, he’s popular, but he also lost a winnable election...

He'll be pretty old. 

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It'll be interesting to see what Pence does, since I can't imagine there was any reason why Mike Pence agreed to be Trump's VP in the first place other than wanting to be the next president after him. But I'm not sure Pence has any actual appeal with Trump voters other than "guy who was willing to stand alongside Trump."

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2 minutes ago, Ricofoley said:

It'll be interesting to see what Pence does, since I can't imagine there was any reason why Mike Pence agreed to be Trump's VP in the first place other than wanting to be the next president after him. But I'm not sure Pence has any actual appeal with Trump voters other than "guy who was willing to stand alongside Trump."


He might have a chance, only if The Fly is his running mate

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6 minutes ago, Ricofoley said:

It'll be interesting to see what Pence does, since I can't imagine there was any reason why Mike Pence agreed to be Trump's VP in the first place other than wanting to be the next president after him. But I'm not sure Pence has any actual appeal with Trump voters other than "guy who was willing to stand alongside Trump."

 

Pence was about to lose a statewide election in Iowa. Being the VP on a losing presidential ticket is less disastrous to a political career than losing on your own candidacy is.

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35 minutes ago, Ricofoley said:

It'll be interesting to see what Pence does, since I can't imagine there was any reason why Mike Pence agreed to be Trump's VP in the first place other than wanting to be the next president after him. But I'm not sure Pence has any actual appeal with Trump voters other than "guy who was willing to stand alongside Trump."

Maybe he'll get his own religious cult 

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