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AbsolutSurgen

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52 minutes ago, Jose said:

Saying it's almost certainly not coming for you is false.

 

44 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

BuT yOuRe NoT lIkElY tO dIe If YoUrE yOuNg (and healthy, and etc etc etc)

To date, In Hubei province (population 58.5M) , the epicenter of the outbreak, 0.12% of the population (68k) was confirmed to have contracted the virus, and 0.0052% of the population (3k) died from it.

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10 minutes ago, marioandsonic said:

Do you think restaurants, bars, stores, and other places will eventually have to temporarily close?

 

Delivery with food left on your doorstep. That's the route Instacart is going and that's exactly what happened the last few times I ordered some groceries for delivery.

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Just now, Jose said:

I legitimately need toilet paper and can't get any because assholes are crazy.


I read an article the other day about the psychology of buying toilet paper.

 

It doesn’t nourish you ie food and water, and it doesn’t help prevent infection ie soap or hand sanitizer.

 

In summary, people are stupid.

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5 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said:

 

Delivery with food left on your doorstep. That's the route Instacart is going and that's exactly what happened the last few times I ordered some groceries for delivery.

Would be fine with this, but usually I just go and get the food myself because of delivery fees and driver tips that jack up the price.

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Like how is this hard to understand? We're governed by incompetence, we have no paid sick leave, and even with insurance simply getting tested for the virus can put you at risk of thousands of dollars in debt when most Americans can't afford a $400 emergency.

 

So sorry I'm saying fuck off to horrible advice that, best case using the Chinese numbers, would kill nearly 20,000 Americans and make 400,000 sick. And it's not over, there's plenty of room to grow.

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20 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

Why don't you lay it out for me then.

 

The flu has a mortality rate of around 0.1% in the US, and infects up to 45 million Americans each year. On a given year, 12,000 to 65,000 will die in the US.

 

COVID-19 is 5x to 30x as deadly as the common flu, and 2-3 times as contagious.

 

So if it infects 2x as much and is 5x as deadly, then you are looking at 450,000 dead in the US. That is a reasonable estimate based on the current figures. Could be lower, could be higher (hopefully lower as more non-symptomatic cases are confirmed). But even the best-case scenario is much worse than the flu, and this is on top of the deaths caused by the flu. 

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44 minutes ago, marioandsonic said:

Do you think restaurants, bars, stores, and other places will eventually have to temporarily close?

Absolutely. Not necessarily for long periods, but there will be major retail shutdowns at various points and places in 2020.

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35 minutes ago, Massdriver said:

This isn’t the first virus that originated from China’s animal food markets. They haven’t tried hard enough to shut that shit down. 

It’s 2020, ass eating is expected. 
 

EDIT - quoted the wrong post lol but I’m leaving it

35 minutes ago, osxmatt said:


I read an article the other day about the psychology of buying toilet paper.

 

It doesn’t nourish you ie food and water, and it doesn’t help prevent infection ie soap or hand sanitizer.

 

In summary, people are stupid.

THAT's the one :p

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2 minutes ago, Jose said:

 

We aren't taking any of the steps that China took to quarantine the disease. 

And yet, I would feel very comfortable going out to a restaurant and eating.  Strange that.

 

I think you should be doing more, but even if I was you, I wouldn't have an issue going out to a restaurant and eating.  Would I go to a packed dance club in downtown Seattle right now?  Probably not.  A trade show filled with international travelers? Probably not.

2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Like how is this hard to understand? We're governed by incompetence, we have no paid sick leave, and even with insurance simply getting tested for the virus can put you at risk of thousands of dollars in debt when most Americans can't afford a $400 emergency.

 

So sorry I'm saying fuck off to horrible advice that, best case using the Chinese numbers, would kill nearly 20,000 Americans and make 400,000 sick. And it's not over, there's plenty of room to grow.

You are governed by incompetence (and, arguably,  have been since Bill Clinton left office).  That doesn't change the risk to most Americans going out continuing to do their daily routine every day.  There will be/are pockets where more extreme measures are needed.  However, if you are dramatically changing your daily routine (other than washing your hands, keeping your hands away from your face, etc.) in Ohio (with 3 confirmed cases) right now -- you are overreacting.

 

Comparison US statistics, on an annual basis:

~170k people die in unintentional accidents (~37k of those in car accidents)

~56k people die from the flu/pneumonia 

~47k people die from suicide

 

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5 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

And yet, I would feel very comfortable going out to a restaurant and eating.  Strange that.

 

I think you should be doing more, but even if I was you, I wouldn't have an issue going out to a restaurant and eating.  Would I go to a packed dance club in downtown Seattle right now?  Probably not.  A trade show filled with international travelers? Probably not.

You are governed by incompetence (and, arguably,  have been since Bill Clinton left office).  That doesn't change the risk to most Americans going out continuing to do their daily routine every day.  There will be/are pockets where more extreme measures are needed.  However, if you are dramatically changing your daily routine (other than washing your hands, keeping your hands away from your face, etc.) in Ohio (with 3 confirmed cases) right now -- you are overreacting.

 

Comparison US statistics, on an annual basis:

~170k people die in unintentional accidents (~37k of those in car accidents)

~56k people die from the flu/pneumonia 

~47k people die from suicide

 

 

I feel like you are arguing with yourself right now. Nobody is saying you can't go out to eat unless you are very old or immuno suppressed.

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14 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

And yet, I would feel very comfortable going out to a restaurant and eating.  Strange that.

 

I think you should be doing more, but even if I was you, I wouldn't have an issue going out to a restaurant and eating.  Would I go to a packed dance club in downtown Seattle right now?  Probably not.  A trade show filled with international travelers? Probably not.

You are governed by incompetence (and, arguably,  have been since Bill Clinton left office).  That doesn't change the risk to most Americans going out continuing to do their daily routine every day.  There will be/are pockets where more extreme measures are needed.  However, if you are dramatically changing your daily routine (other than washing your hands, keeping your hands away from your face, etc.) in Ohio (with 3 confirmed cases) right now -- you are overreacting.

 

Comparison US statistics, on an annual basis:

~170k people die in unintentional accidents (~37k of those in car accidents)

~56k people die from the flu/pneumonia 

~47k people die from suicide

 

If you're citing confirmed cases just lol buddy. Do you even understand we just don't have testing capacity/are not testing in total to the degree that South Korea does every single day?

 

The real concern is that the experience in Italy is looking a week or two into the future here in the US, but compounded by a lack of paid sick leave and for profit health insurance.

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