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In Topic: ObamaCare enrolls less than 10 million, 3-4 million fewer than expected

Yesterday, 09:47 AM

View PostEveryman, on 21 November 2014 - 09:22 PM, said:

The CBO's cost projection included the Medicare cuts with the ACA you very nice person who I respect with a whole lot of wonderful feelings (edited by the legospaceman as we don't really need the insults here)..

Again this argument doesn't make sense. The CBO included the "doc fix" cuts beside it's analysis of the overall affects of the ACA on healthcare spending but the ACA itself doesn't require those cuts to remain deficit neutral. Again it's like asking for the affects of the doc fix to be included in a bill renaming a post office.

We have Bill Clinton to thank of course for garbage legislation like the "doc fix" that prevents the facade of accomplishment. Appropriate as it's reflective of his entire eight years in office.

In Topic: Protesters chant "What do we want? Darren Wilson. How do we want him? Dea...

21 November 2014 - 09:09 PM

 Everyman, on 21 November 2014 - 09:04 PM, said:

This is a fairy tale lullaby people sing to themselves. "It's just a few bad apples," no it's not. The entire community is facilitating the lawlessness. Only a few tried to stop the looting back in August, that's the straight truth. Most appeared to treat the occassion as a summer block party by getting drunk and attempting to goad police into an overreaction. That's when we turned our TVs on. Most protesting are malcontents, undermen, and generally those who offer little or nothing to the community anyway. In the end, their sympathy is with the rioters because they share the same skin color and they all believe their grievances are legitimate.

You're wrong, racist, and you have significant psychological issues.

:shrug:

In Topic: ObamaCare enrolls less than 10 million, 3-4 million fewer than expected

21 November 2014 - 08:50 PM

View PostEveryman, on 11 November 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

http://www.washingto...to-fall-well-s/



http://www.cnbc.com/id/102169534#.



Hugely significant because the CBO cost projections rely on 13 million enrollees and their premiums for the law to break even. They're 30% short, meaning that the cost projections are just pieces of paper at this point.

Let's also not forget that the CBO's cost projections assume cuts in the Medicare reimbursement rate that Congress has voted to defer every year for the last 11 years including 2014, legislation which Obama signed. Again, this all suggests that the numbers will add up to a debt, unless most of the people who didn't sign up would have been eligible for Medicaid or would have received high premium credits, then the government saves money short-term but you still have these people inflating healthcare costs with primary care at the ER.

The people I know who don't enroll don't have plans through work and make too much to be on Medicaid, and the premium credits for them aren't enough. The fine is $95 this year, increases incrementally until it reaches $1,000 in a few years. The law might still be solvent but we should ask why people didn't jump at the opportunity to enroll if the law is such a good deal.

A few points here:

Hugely significant because the CBO cost projections rely on 13 million enrollees and their premiums for the law to break even. They're 30% short, meaning that the cost projections are just pieces of paper at this point.

Enrollment doesn't affect the bottom line of what the federal government pays.

Let's also not forget that the CBO's cost projections assume cuts in the Medicare reimbursement rate that Congress has voted to defer every year for the last 11 years including 2014, legislation which Obama signed. Again, this all suggests that the numbers will add up to a debt, unless most of the people who didn't sign up would have been eligible for Medicaid or would have received high premium credits, then the government saves money short-term but you still have these people inflating healthcare costs with primary care at the ER.

(edited by the legospaceman: Let's just keep things friendly here so it doesn't cause the thread to go way off base with continuous back and forths of negativity...no other action being taken...just hoping to put the message back on topic and hope it continues without the need to take it personally) The Affordable Care Act doesn't expand insurance through Medicare. If you're counting Medicare reimbursement rates against the ACA, you might as well count it against legislation naming a post office. Of course, we expecting these types of nasty lies from you so it's all good.

In Topic: Protesters chant "What do we want? Darren Wilson. How do we want him? Dea...

21 November 2014 - 08:30 PM

There's like 10 people there

In Topic: Well hi thar

19 November 2014 - 08:50 PM

I haven't been posting much as so much of this board has become Everyman's space to work out his odd psychological issues but OMG @Jason the Metro has driven me off the wall this week.