The original story in The Atlantic about the original purpose of the chatbots.
Follow-up story about what the "language" looks like.
â€œThere has been a lot of controversy lately on the subject of Artificial Intelligence (AI). However, some important elements appear to be missing in the debate so far. Professor Edward Frenkel will talk about the issues surrounding AI from the perspective of a mathematician, and a human. To what extent is it possible to represent reality by numbers and algorithms?â€
In his own words:
Interesting talk although I think Kurzweil et al. wouldnâ€™t care all that much (if they accepted his argument) that they cannot REALLY transfer our minds to computers. I think they just might go â€œEh, close enough, itâ€™s not me but something very similar to meâ€ and plow on ahead.
This thread is rather delayed from the with @ that inspired it, but here it is all the same.
Lets assume we have good reason to believe that a God exists, meaning, some kind of intelligent creator of the universe, but that we know absolutely nothing else about this God. We'll assume this because while I disagree, many people's arguments for God conclude at kind of this abstract level that some intelligent creator exists. So lets assume that's the case. Given that, on what grounds can we conclude that Christianity is sound set of beliefs to believe with high confidence. We can define Christianity as adding to the assumption that God exist the notion that
God is omnipotent,
actively communicated to man through Jesus in particular.
We could make 4 even more strong (e.g., Jesus was the result of immaculate conception and is God's will in human form) and we could consider adding additional ideas from Christianity, but lets leave it at these somewhat loose bounds to help facilitate the discussion. If you'd like to loosen those bounds even further, feel free to do so and just make it clear for what new bounds you're arguing.
Now, what you might say is that by reading the bible, praying, etc. you have an overwhelming intuition that these 4 properties are true that you simply cannot ignore. That's fine, but that is a very subjective reason and the purpose of this thread is to establish what rational grounds exist and whether given the assumption that God exists if we can get to high rationally substantiated confidence in those 4 additional premises. That said, if you are a Christian and think your subjective intuition is the only reason (that there are no rational grounds that support it with high confidence) or if you think your subjective intuition is at least a critical component for justifying your belief (that you cannot get there by rational reasoning alone), then please do state as such if for no other reason than it would be interesting to see how many Christians here feel that way.
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