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#1 ohioguy24

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:14 PM

Or will their next Iphone 100% be 4g ready? What's going on? Another reason I stuck with Droid, this time.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:21 PM

New iPhone is almost a 100% guarantee to be LTE. The current LTE chip being used by android phones is a major power hog and leads to battery life issues. The newer LTE chip that would be ideal for the iPhone will be out in mass quantities in time for the new model.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:25 PM

either way, man, they are losing sales to Droid I'm sure.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:51 PM

LTE currently sucks for battery life. There's a reason the iPhone gets much better battery life than virtually every Android phone on the market.

Another point is that the current LTE chipset is huge and simply won't fit inside a 3.5" phone. That's why so many Android devices keep expanding to these ridiculous sizes like 4.7 or 4.8 inches. They need the additional space for the LTE chip plus, they need space for a larger battery, given how much power LTE consumers. Apple wasn't willing to make those sacrifices so they decided to wait for the technology to be made more efficient before implementing it.

Qualcomm (the manufacturer of the LTE chips) will be releasing their next generation LTE chip soon and it will be smaller and more power efficient. Once they do, Apple will make the switch. Unless something goes terribly wrong with Qualcomm's upcoming chip, we're guaranteed to see LTE in the next iPhone.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:11 PM

Apple always withholds things like this to get you to buy the next model.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:36 PM

View Postnever_knows_best, on 11 May 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

Apple always withholds things like this to get you to buy the next model.

This post directly following a very detailed and insightful reasoning made me lol.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:40 PM

View Postheyyoudvd, on 11 May 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

LTE currently sucks for battery life. There's a reason the iPhone gets much better battery life than virtually every Android phone on the market.

Another point is that the current LTE chipset is huge and simply won't fit inside a 3.5" phone. That's why so many Android devices keep expanding to these ridiculous sizes like 4.7 or 4.8 inches. They need the additional space for the LTE chip plus, they need space for a larger battery, given how much power LTE consumers. Apple wasn't willing to make those sacrifices so they decided to wait for the technology to be made more efficient before implementing it.

Qualcomm's (the manufacturer of the LTE chips) will be releasing their next generation LTE chip soon and it will be smaller and more power efficient. Once they do, Apple will make the switch. Unless something goes terribly wrong with Qualcomm's upcoming chip, we're guaranteed to see LTE in the next iPhone.

very good info there.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:40 PM

I agree with the reasons mentioned above. I'd assume we're getting close to Apple adopting LTE since the new iPad also has an LTE version. My initial reason for thinking Apple didn't include it was coverage. Initially when people were calling for Apple to adopt LTE it was only available in a handful of cities. I'd say it's only recently that it's more widely available and worth the extra cost (resource and financially) to upgrade to LTE chips.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:46 PM

It's all about battery life and noticeable performance.  LTE battery life is terrible and the performance boost is questionably valuable.  For many applications, 4G really isn't noticeably faster, but it has a very negative impact on battery life.  Apple has the influence to say no to carriers, a position that no Android maker is in.  When the carriers decided to push 4G, the android makers scrambled to get on it, as it would give them better positioning with the carriers and a marketing advantage over the iPhone.  

I expect the next iPhone to have LTE.

Personally though, I leave LTE off most of the time.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 12:04 PM

View PostGiger, on 11 May 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

This post directly following a very detailed and insightful reasoning made me lol.

It's true, though. They've done this with their computers for a long time. The MBP I'm typing this on (note: frequent Apple customer here) infuriatingly doesn't pass audio through HDMI/MDP and the only real reason is because it was a nice selling point for the next year's model lol. I'm not saying there aren't also technical reasons for it, though.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 01:51 PM

It's almost guaranteed the next iPhone will have 4G or LTE.
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