stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Just seems like there should be more to it? I dunno if I'd trust it as being 100% accurate, especially since at 1080p the "simulated 7800x3D" is beating the 7950x3D. Cyberpower is kind of trash. My friend got a build from them and it kept crashing, sent his GPU to EVGA for warranty, still crashing, sent the entire PC back to cyberpower, sent back and was still crashing. Finally, when I saw a pic of the PC, I told him to remove the PCIE 8-pin extension cables that cyberpower put on there, and then it was fine; they were using extension cables not rated for the power draw of the 3080 FTW3 Ultra he has. hmm on the other hand anything like that I could probably figure out! That’s concerning though still yeah ugh. The other sites I’ve checked are like $300 more. Tempted to just say fuck it and do digital storm and pay whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Just now, stepee said: hmm on the other hand anything like that I could probably figure out! That’s concerning though still yeah ugh. The other sites I’ve checked are like $300 more. Tempted to just say fuck it and do digital storm and pay whatever If you go with them, I would just immediately remove any/all extension cables since they're just aesthetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 Just now, Spork3245 said: If you go with them, I would just immediately remove any/all extension cables since they're just aesthetic I’m tempted to do this because the price is so perfect for what I wanted :P I mean parts wise that looks good right; the cooler and the motherboard I picked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, stepee said: I’m tempted to do this because the price is so perfect for what I wanted :P I mean parts wise that looks good right; the cooler and the motherboard I picked? I'd go for the H150i so you have a 360mm radiator. I'm not familiar with that motherboard, just pull it up on newegg and check to see if it has everything you want in terms of ports/m.2 slots/etc. The ssd is kinda "ew" though, it's a gen4 that runs gen3 speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 Just now, Spork3245 said: I'd go for the H120i so you have a 360mm radiator. I'm not familiar with that motherboard, just pull it up on newegg and check to see if it has everything you want in terms of ports/m.2 slots/etc. The ssd is kinda "ew" though, it's a gen4 that runs gen3 speeds. I have two 2tb nvme’s I will use for now I should mention, I’m taking those out of my current build! edit: And yeah I picked that MB because it was the most reasonable one that has 4 m2 slots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Just now, stepee said: I have two 2tb nvme’s I will use for now I should mention, I’m taking those out of my current build! Got it. I'd still up the cooler, though. The 7000 series seems to run hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 @stepeeI said H120 but meant H150 The 360mm radiator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: @stepeeI said H120 but meant H150 The 360mm radiator. Yeah I was looking and was about to ask :P It makes me change the case for that, I liked this one but they have tons so I will see what I can do there! Only $70 for the change to the 150 and the case to actually my current one which I love but in white which I want hmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Just seems like there should be more to it? I dunno if I'd trust it as being 100% accurate, especially since at 1080p the "simulated 7800x3D" is beating the 7950x3D. Cyberpower is kind of trash. My friend got a build from them and it kept crashing, sent his GPU to EVGA for warranty, still crashing, sent the entire PC back to cyberpower, sent back and was still crashing. Finally, when I saw a pic of the PC, I told him to remove the PCIE 8-pin extension cables that cyberpower put on there, and then it was fine; they were using extension cables not rated for the power draw of the 3080 FTW3 Ultra he has. The 3D CCD runs at a lower clockspeed, comparable to the 7800X3D, than the other CCD in the 7950. The most likely reason that simulated wins a lot is because disabling a CCD lowers the power and allows the 3D CCD to clock higher before hitting the temperature throttle, as well as negating any latency penalties if a game thread was bouncing between CCDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Do AMD MB's not support PCIe 5.0 NVMe drives? The one you picked doesn't seem to have support any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Do AMD MB's not support PCIe 5.0 NVMe drives? The one you picked doesn't seem to have support any. It’s confusing as hell I guess because the drives aren’t out yet? It mentions Lightning Gen 5 nvme and then also in detailed specs says: 4x M.2 M.2_1 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 , supports 22110/2280 devices M.2_2 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_3 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_4 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices 6x SATA 6G So I think it does support it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, stepee said: It’s confusing as hell I guess because the drives aren’t out yet? It mentions Lightning Gen 5 nvme and then also in detailed specs says: 4x M.2 M.2_1 Source (From CPU) supports up to PCIe 5.0 x4 , supports 22110/2280 devices M.2_2 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_3 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices M.2_4 Source (From Chipset) supports up to PCIe 4.0 x4 , supports 2280/2260 devices 6x SATA 6G So I think it does support it? I missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, AbsolutSurgen said: I missed it. It took me a bit even looking for it after you mentioned it so not surprised! It’s not clearly stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 My mistake it was the graphics slot that was PCIe 4.0 only. @Spork3245 Any word on whether future graphics cards will need PCIe 5.0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 Do other motherboards have pcie5 gpu slots? I was going to ask also about if it’s worth $40 extra for the corsair 1000w with the pcie5 connector, I’m thinking no and what’s happening now is I’m getting feature creep and the price is growing lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 Hurry someone chime in on those because current ship date is Mario day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 31 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: My mistake it was the graphics slot that was PCIe 4.0 only. @Spork3245 Any word on whether future graphics cards will need PCIe 5.0? Need? No. You can run a 4090 on a PCIE2 slot if you want. Be compatible with, sure. Currently if you run a PCIE4 GPU on a PCIE3 slot, there’s really no difference. Cards aren’t using all the previous gen’s bandwidth yet. 22 minutes ago, stepee said: Do other motherboards have pcie5 gpu slots? I was going to ask also about if it’s worth $40 extra for the corsair 1000w with the pcie5 connector, I’m thinking no and what’s happening now is I’m getting feature creep and the price is growing lol Yes, there’s plenty of mobos with PCIE5 16x slots. You should probably get one in case some new features on future GPUs actually use the bandwidth. I think going for an (actual) ATX 3.0 PSU is worth it for future gpu upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 I’m thinking maybe not worth it for the money (now that i’m looking) for these pcie5 16 lane ready ones, even if I didn’t do prebuilt, those seem expensive. But maybe the psu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 After feature creep and $100 off on Digital Storm this is actually $15 cheaper than my Cyberpowerpc build: Lumos | Digital Storm Configurator WWW.DIGITALSTORM.COM Check out my configuration for the Digital Storm Lumos Would that be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 15 hours ago, stepee said: After feature creep and $100 off on Digital Storm this is actually $15 cheaper than my Cyberpowerpc build: Lumos | Digital Storm Configurator WWW.DIGITALSTORM.COM Check out my configuration for the Digital Storm Lumos Would that be better? If you like that mobo better, sure. I prefer corsair RGB memory + AIOs for iCue, but that’s preference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, stepee said: After feature creep and $100 off on Digital Storm this is actually $15 cheaper than my Cyberpowerpc build: Lumos | Digital Storm Configurator WWW.DIGITALSTORM.COM Check out my configuration for the Digital Storm Lumos Would that be better? The case has better ventilation than the Cyberpower Kira. Cases that have the fans in the front with a glass panel are really bad for thermals. I would definitely avoid any case with a glass front panel that doesn't have ventilation on the sides (like the Lian Li 011 dynamic) to make up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 28 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: If you like that mono better, sure. I prefer corsair RGB memory + AIOs for iCue, but that’s preference I guess it’s more just that I would assume the Digital Storm one might be built better than Cyberpowerpc? The Cyberpowerpc one is basic the parts I actually want. The digital storm stuff is proprietary some of it so I’m not sure if it’s like better or not. 17 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: The case has better ventilation than the Cyberpower Kira. Cases that have the fans in the front with a glass panel are really bad for thermals. I would definitely avoid any case with a glass front panel that doesn't have ventilation on the sides (like the Lian Li 011 dynamic) to make up for it. I forgot to update I switched out the cyberpowerpc case to CORSAIR ICUE 4000X RGB SERIES ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis + AirGuide RGB fans What would you say between the two builds after that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 hours ago, stepee said: I guess it’s more just that I would assume the Digital Storm one might be built better than Cyberpowerpc? The Cyberpowerpc one is basic the parts I actually want. The digital storm stuff is proprietary some of it so I’m not sure if it’s like better or not. I forgot to update I switched out the cyberpowerpc case to CORSAIR ICUE 4000X RGB SERIES ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis + AirGuide RGB fans What would you say between the two builds after that? You can get a lot more for your money with the Cyberpower build. I'm pretty cheap so that's what I would personally go with. Functionally speaking, there's nothing wrong with the basic Digital Storm parts and should be performance-equivalent to the Corsair stuff, just won't have as many pretty lights. Oh I don't know if you noticed but the Digital Storm defaults to Linux and only 250GB SSD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 8 hours ago, cusideabelincoln said: You can get a lot more for your money with the Cyberpower build. I'm pretty cheap so that's what I would personally go with. Functionally speaking, there's nothing wrong with the basic Digital Storm parts and should be performance-equivalent to the Corsair stuff, just won't have as many pretty lights. Oh I don't know if you noticed but the Digital Storm defaults to Linux and only 250GB SSD. Yeah to get the prices close I had to do linux :P I have nvme’s from my current build I’ll be using and can grab that windows license too, but if I do the CP one then my Dad won’t need to by a windows license for my old pc I’m giving him. I’m leaning towards the CP I think too because I’d like the corsair stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, stepee said: Yeah to get the prices close I had to do linux :P I have nvme’s from my current build I’ll be using and can grab that windows license too, but if I do the CP one then my Dad won’t need to by a windows license for my old pc I’m giving him. I’m leaning towards the CP I think too because I’d like the corsair stuff. It's a shame there's no MC near you because I'm pretty sure you can pick out all your parts and they'll put it together for you for like $100-150 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 RTX 4080 Founders Ed at $1,199- good price or nah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: RTX 4080 Founders Ed at $1,199- good price or nah? Well it’s retail but you won’t find it cheaper so if it’s in stock and you want it goooooo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Lots of 4080s in stock -- that is retail price. The only way I've seen cheaper is open box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Work is sending me a new PC but I feel like I should have my own in case shit hits the fan. But I wonder if it's just FOMO. Torn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Work is giving you a gaming PC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Work is sending me a new PC but I feel like I should have my own in case shit hits the fan. But I wonder if it's just FOMO. Torn. Counterpoint: Dlss3 is crazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Work is giving you a gaming PC? 23 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Work is sending me a new PC but I feel like I should have my own in case shit hits the fan. But I wonder if it's just FOMO. Torn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Work is giving you a gaming PC? I work in 3D.. stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: I work in 3D.. stuff. Need all that power to render those beautiful 3D dicks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: Need all that power to render those beautiful 3D dicks. I feel seen rn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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