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~*Official #COVID-19 Thread of Doom*~ Revenge of Omicron Prime


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2 hours ago, Spork3245 said:


If you have this problem you likely can already afford a BMW, though

Yeah but I though BMW drivers were notorious for not using their signals, so how will he be able to afford the payments? :thinking:

 

 

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I kid, I own an X1 and use my signals all the time.

 

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27 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

What a shocker: Anti-vaxxers think the massive surge in child hospitalizations due to RSV is a hoax:

 

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Different virus, same old disinformation.

 

 

Anecdotal, sure, but my son had an asthma attack last night and sent us to the hospital. Usually, asthma attack in a 6yo gets you bumped to the front of the line. Not so when there were twenty-something other kids around the same age, all unable to breath.

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29 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said:

 

Anecdotal, sure, but my son had an asthma attack last night and sent us to the hospital. Usually, asthma attack in a 6yo gets you bumped to the front of the line. Not so when there were twenty-something other kids around the same age, all unable to breath.

 

I'm sorry you had to experience that. Is he doing okay?

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35 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

I'm sorry you had to experience that. Is he doing okay?

 

Yeah, he's fine. Rather than wait, I took him to a pediatric urgent care facility that was open until midnight, half an hour away. I'd say that's far, but I know that's right next door for a good chunk of this board. My youngest had a cold and passed it onto her sister who passed it onto my oldest, right in order all the way up. He normally doesn't have asthma, but a lot of coughing will do him in.

 

Either way, that ER was something else. I don't know if I've ever seen this ER filled with so many young kids.

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Overall, a very good look and omen for the next couple of months
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This is the first time in the pandemic that a variant with clearcut, marked immune evasion has not induced a major new wave. Examples of prior variants with increases in immune escape properties include Beta, Gamma, Omicron BA.1, BA.2, and BA.5. Each of these led to major waves globally or in specific continents (Beta in South Africa, Gamma in South America).

Under pressure from prior infections, vaccinations, boosters and combinations of these, the virus is having a harder time finding new hosts. To date, BQ.1.1 has not been able to induce a new wave in 2 countries, a very positive sign. Sure, there are Omicron lineages with 7 mutations on top of BA.2, like CH.1.1 and BQ.1.1.10, and 8 or 9 mutations (XBB.3 and 4) but are they going to look any different? You might think that BQ.1.1 would qualify as an acid test and so far its outcome looks far more favorable than initially projected. For further context, all of this is happening with minimal mitigation, such as the very low use of masks or avoidance of indoor gatherings. No less in colder weather, heading into winter.

 

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It would be tempting to interpret the lack of impact of BQ.1.1, relative to its immune evasion properties, as we’re out of the woods. A population-level immunity wall has been built up over 3 years, with all the infections and vaccinations. Further, our T-cell immunity from these exposures, which isn’t assessed with these neutralization antibody assays, is helping us defend against variants. The optimistic viewpoint is that there’s little more that the Omicron family can throw at us which will be much worse than what we’ve already seen. That we’re done, going endemic, that the acute phase of the pandemic with big waves is over.

Not so fast. As Daniele Focosi reminded us this week, the SARS-CoV-2 mutation rate has increased by 30% in the past year. There still could be room within Omicron, and especially the XBB recombinants, to pose a significant threat. Moreover, there’s the dismal prospect of a whole new family of variants to emerge (e.g. Sigma) that are distinct from the mutation cascade we’ve seen from Omicron for over a year.

Another concern is that BQ.1.1 is going to cause some trouble. It has blown through Evusheld protection, a vital help for immunocompromised people, and left us without a monoclonal antibody treatment that works for people at high-risk not responding to (or unable to take) Paxlovid. Sadly. we see no new monoclonal on the short term horizon to take their place, even though so many very broad neutralizing antibodies (with potential of being variant-proof) have been identified in many academic labs.

 

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With the caveats above, there’s a good look for at least a couple of months. Beyond that, however, there’s potential for more difficult times. That’s why it’s still essential to develop ways to achieve mucosal immunity to block infections and spread (which the Omicron variants have largely overridden vaccine/booster protection) and take advantage of all the work that led to numerous pan-sarbecovirus and pan-beta-coronavirus neutralizing antibodies that are templates for variant-proof vaccines. It is preposterous that a small investment in these efforts has been thwarted by Congress (specifically Republicans). This is the epitome of complacency, or even stupidity, since this virus isn’t going to just go away. Unfortunately, it can and will likely continue to haunt us for years to come.

 

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Data shows the bivalent boosters are good, better than original shots (especially for younger people):

 

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The latest booster shots provide better protection than original vaccines, CDC data shows ahead of health official’s retirement

 

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Well just more proof that we aren’t lying about shit. Glad they mentioned sleep because I swear I have had maybe 3-4 hours of pure sleep over the past 2 days. Same with my mom and sister, and we have all noticed that Covid stink return, and their taste buds are off again. Two nights ago I woke to a headache at 3am and haven’t really fallen asleep since then really. I just want to feel normal again, but atleast the out of nowhere anxiety has kept me down 40-50lbs since Feb. (another 40 or so would be amazing)

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Still no covid. But RSV has shown up in my household and blessed allah the mighty I don’t have to spend the next 5 days living out of my van. Kid will be fine she’s old enough (16 months) we just don’t want to spread it to great grandma (age ~90) with breathing issues and uncle with downs and a heart problem

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2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Still no covid. But RSV has shown up in my household and blessed allah the mighty I don’t have to spend the next 5 days living out of my van. Kid will be fine she’s old enough (16 months) we just don’t want to spread it to great grandma (age ~90) with breathing issues and uncle with downs and a heart problem


Hoping it goes through quickly and none of the at-risk people catch it. I’m finally at a

point where I only have an annoying dry-cough fit like twice a day 😂

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Pretty significant anti-"Zero COVID" lockdown protests have erupted across the PRC.

 

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Rare protests broke out across China over the weekend as groups of people vented their frustration over the zero-Covid policy.

 

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Rare protests broke out across China over the weekend as groups of people vented their frustration over the zero-Covid policy.

 

The unrest came as infections surged, prompting more local Covid controls, while a central government policy change earlier this month had raised hopes of a gradual easing. Nearly three years of controls have dragged down the economy. Youth unemployment has neared 20%.

 

People’s Daily, the Communist Party’s official newspaper, ran a front page op-ed Monday on the need to make Covid controls more targeted and effective, while removing those that should be removed.

 

In Beijing, many apartment communities successfully convinced local management they had no legal basis for a lockdown. That came after more and more compounds in the capital city on Friday had abruptly forbade residents from leaving.

 

On Sunday, municipal authorities said temporary controls on movement should not last more than 24 hours.

 

Over the last three days, students staged protests at many universities, while people took to the streets in parts of Beijing, Shanghai, Wuhan and Lanzhou, among other cities, according to videos widely shared on social media. The videos could not all be independently verified.

 

 

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I was just telling my wife yesterday that deaths could be 20x the peak and there won't ever be any lockdowns again. We had some friends visit from LA and they wore masks and were weary of dining indoors at restaurants, but I suspect they're the minority even in LA/CA. The only place I've seen it be taken seriously is Mexico City, even NYC has eased restrictions more. 

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17 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Pretty significant anti-"Zero COVID" lockdown protests have erupted across the PRC.

 

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Rare protests broke out across China over the weekend as groups of people vented their frustration over the zero-Covid policy.

 

And thanks to Twitter's currently weakened moderation and bot detection, these protests have been mostly drowned out by bots spamming porn using the same hashtags.

 

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Accounts are tweeting thousands of times per day.

 

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4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Pretty significant anti-"Zero COVID" lockdown protests have erupted across the PRC.

 

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Rare protests broke out across China over the weekend as groups of people vented their frustration over the zero-Covid policy.

 

 

 

At this point I'm starting to wonder if the Zero-Covid policy along with their shitty vaccines will destroy them as a world power. Pooh won't give up on this because then he will look like a failure so they will ride this policy all the way down.

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Zero COVID was a decent policy before we had vaccines and before will instituted full mask mandates and saw their effectiveness, etc. Now, I'm obviously the first to state that western nations are doing a poor job at handling COVID right now (mostly because the public doesn't want to do anything, and the public sets the course), but the thing that has made China's response much worse is its unwillingness to use western mRNA vaccines combined with its own population's unwillingness to get vaccinated. Something like 50% of people over 80 in China aren't vaccinated. It's staggering.

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32 minutes ago, BloodyHell said:

Locking people in their homes was never decent policy, ever. People unable to get medecine or food, medical emergencies ignored, depression, suicide, and now, people locked in burning buildings…. Nah, it was never “decent policy”.

Uhhh. People were able to access those things here and there’s a reason this super liberal bastion had one of the easiest pandemics in the country; wonder why? Maybe Grindr per capital was the secret the whole time!?

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7 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

Uhhh. People were able to access those things here and there’s a reason this super liberal bastion had one of the easiest pandemics in the country; wonder why? Maybe Grindr per capital was the secret the whole time!?


I believe BH is talking about China literally locking people in buildings, not American “lockdowns”

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17 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

He responded to someone who clearly wasn’t, we pursued zero Covid early on in the pandemic here as well.


I would re-read the series of responses as in context the posts are first explicitly and then implicitly about China. Zero-Covid was never pursued as policy in America

 

For clarity on what zero-Covid is: 

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16 hours ago, CitizenVectron said:

Zero COVID was a decent policy before we had vaccines and before will instituted full mask mandates and saw their effectiveness, etc. Now, I'm obviously the first to state that western nations are doing a poor job at handling COVID right now (mostly because the public doesn't want to do anything, and the public sets the course), but the thing that has made China's response much worse is its unwillingness to use western mRNA vaccines combined with its own population's unwillingness to get vaccinated. Something like 50% of people over 80 in China aren't vaccinated. It's staggering.

 

1 hour ago, BloodyHell said:

Locking people in their homes was never decent policy, ever. People unable to get medecine or food, medical emergencies ignored, depression, suicide, and now, people locked in burning buildings…. Nah, it was never “decent policy”.


 

Im also aware of the context but is this where we forest for the trees?

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