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Alright finally re-joining the master race after being without a pc for a few years now and girlfriend's laptop just bit the dust. Using my phone for all this... Just a few quick build questions:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604 - Been eyeing this up. Any good? Otherwise, I want to stick with Nvidia cards. Can I do better for around the price or a little more?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131759 - Would get this with one of the ram combos. Also, planning on getting an I5 2500k processor. Same questions as above.

Thanks in advance.

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i'm looking into building my brother a budget gaming pc that would be ready to upgrade to bulldozer in the future, i have the same mobo in mind but instead of the athlon x3 445, I see that for the same price I can get a phenom x3 720 BE. which one of these two is better? i'm completely lost with AMD stuff these days. after my upgrade to i5-2500k, I gave him my old parts which had an athlon 64 5400+.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103652

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Alright finally re-joining the master race after being without a pc for a few years now and girlfriend's laptop just bit the dust. Using my phone for all this... Just a few quick build questions:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604 - Been eyeing this up. Any good? Otherwise, I want to stick with Nvidia cards. Can I do better for around the price or a little more?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131759 - Would get this with one of the ram combos. Also, planning on getting an I5 2500k processor. Same questions as above.

Thanks in advance.

Both things are good. You can't really get a better video card at that price, unless of course you go used.

Motherboard is good. It's shy on expansion slots since it's microATX. So make sure you're not going to need any.

i'm looking into building my brother a budget gaming pc that would be ready to upgrade to bulldozer in the future, i have the same mobo in mind but instead of the athlon x3 445, I see that for the same price I can get a phenom x3 720 BE. which one of these two is better? i'm completely lost with AMD stuff these days. after my upgrade to i5-2500k, I gave him my old parts which had an athlon 64 5400+.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103652

The Phenom 720 is better for gaming. The L3 cache makes a huge difference. Also this chip is unlocked so it's easy to overclock. Both processors could potentially unlock to a quad core. But the Phenom 720 doesn't come with a heatsink, so you will need to add about $20-30 to the price if you don't have an AMD compatible heatsink lying around.

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Thanks cusideabelincoln for the help. I didn't even notice the mobo was mini-atx. Do not want that then.

I am trying to do all this on my phone as I said earlier. It sucks. So maybe you guys can help me a little more. Now I have an idea of what parts and whatnot I want to get. Let's see what you guys come up with since I am sure you can do better.

I have a budget of $900. I do not need a case, Monitor, or any input devices. Preferably want to stick to Intel/Nvida. Going to be mainly a gaming pc. Also, my budget really isnt a strict one. I can go more if its worth it. I plan on ordering my pc in the next few days.

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GTX 560 Ti - $235 w/$30 rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363

80GB Intel 320 SSD - $160 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167047

1.5TB Samsung F4EG - $50 ($10 promo code) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152287

Asus P8Z68-V LE - $133 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131773

DVD Burner - $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118040

2500k - $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Hyper 212 Plus cooler - $28 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

8GB DDR3 1600 - $50 w/$15 rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220570

650W Antec Earthwatts - $55 ($15 promo code) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044

Windows 7 - $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Total is about $1050. If you don't need Windows 7 or can get a student discount then the price drops.

The SSD is optional and won't affect gaming performance, so you can reduce cost by dropping it.

I recommend a heatsink with your budget. The stock one won't let you overclock much beyond 4 GHz. Even if you don't overclock an aftermarket cooler will drop temps significantly compared to the stock cooler.

The promo codes end on August 22nd.

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GTX 560 Ti - $235 w/$30 rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363

80GB Intel 320 SSD - $160 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167047

1.5TB Samsung F4EG - $50 ($10 promo code) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152287

Asus P8Z68-V LE - $133 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131773

DVD Burner - $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118040

2500k - $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Hyper 212 Plus cooler - $28 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

8GB DDR3 1600 - $50 w/$15 rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220570

650W Antec Earthwatts - $55 ($15 promo code) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044

Windows 7 - $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Total is about $1050. If you don't need Windows 7 or can get a student discount then the price drops.

The SSD is optional and won't affect gaming performance, so you can reduce cost by dropping it.

I recommend a heatsink with your budget. The stock one won't let you overclock much beyond 4 GHz. Even if you don't overclock an aftermarket cooler will drop temps significantly compared to the stock cooler.

The promo codes end on August 22nd.

Thanks again! Well that def. looks good to me. Will order it Monday. Can't wait to be back and able to play with you guys.

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GREAT THREAD!

I am in the works of wanting to put together a good gaming rig and plan to spend about $900. My friend who knows his stuff is gonna be helping me with it since I have never put one together and well i really would love to learn more about computers. The newegg video on the front page of this thread is pretty good and it honestly doesnt seem too tough. I am pretty much building it for Battlefield 3 and other PC games so i wanna be able to run them pretty well. My buddy put a list of parts together for me just wanted to get any additional input from the Bad Cartridge PC guys on anything I need to tweak.

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

GFX CARD

EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130568

RAM

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8

LINK:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233147

HARD-DRIVE

Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136795

MOBO

ASUS P7P55D-E LX LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131634

PSU

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

CASE

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

DVDRW

LG DVD±RW SuperMulti Drive 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH22NS50 Bulk - OEM

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216

TOTAL around 877.92

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GREAT THREAD!

I am in the works of wanting to put together a good gaming rig and plan to spend about $900. My friend who knows his stuff is gonna be helping me with it since I have never put one together and well i really would love to learn more about computers. The newegg video on the front page of this thread is pretty good and it honestly doesnt seem too tough. I am pretty much building it for Battlefield 3 and other PC games so i wanna be able to run them pretty well. My buddy put a list of parts together for me just wanted to get any additional input from the Bad Cartridge PC guys on anything I need to tweak.

You should use a P67/Z68 mobo with a Core i5 2500k. What you listed is obselete and no longer worth buying under nearly all circumstances. CPU is out of stock anyways.

The GTX 460 is kind of old too. I'm not so sure I'd settle for that at time this. AMD are releaseing new boards sometime this year (most likely, anyways) but something like the 6870 or 560Ti would probably be more ideal. 6870 is a bit faster than the 460 1GB and I bet you can find it cheaper than the 460. 560Ti is a bit more expensive but you get what you pay for.

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GREAT THREAD!

I am in the works of wanting to put together a good gaming rig and plan to spend about $900. My friend who knows his stuff is gonna be helping me with it since I have never put one together and well i really would love to learn more about computers. The newegg video on the front page of this thread is pretty good and it honestly doesnt seem too tough. I am pretty much building it for Battlefield 3 and other PC games so i wanna be able to run them pretty well. My buddy put a list of parts together for me just wanted to get any additional input from the Bad Cartridge PC guys on anything I need to tweak.

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

GFX CARD

EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130568

RAM

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233147

HARD-DRIVE

Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136795

MOBO

ASUS P7P55D-E LX LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131634

PSU

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

CASE

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

DVDRW

LG DVD±RW SuperMulti Drive 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH22NS50 Bulk - OEM

LINK: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216

Your buddies parts are outdated. The most glaring issues are the i5 760 and GTX 460. Intel has replaced it with the i5 2500k for the same price, and the 2500k is much faster. 2500K also requires a different motherboard. The particular GTX 460 chosen is overpriced. Nvidia has replaced the GTX 460 with the GTX 560, which is faster and can be found for the same price as that EVGA Superclocked card. AMD also offers the HD 6870 as a faster alternative to the GTX 460, and they can be found cheaper than that one.

There are more changes you can do to get a better build for your money. Unless you want the 5-year warranty on the Western Digital hard drive, I'd recommend you go with a 1TB drive like the Samsung F3. I would consider these cases better options than the Three Hundred: CM HAF 912, NZXT Beta Evo, Rosewill Future, Rosewill Challenger, Xigmatek Utgard, Rosewill SmartOne, XION Classic Series, NZXT M9, Sentry BX1-4237, Lian Li Lancool K58, CM 690 II Basic, CM Storm Scout, Fractal Design Core 3000 , CM Storm Enforcer

We can't really suggest more changes without knowing how much you're willing/wanting to spend. For example if you don't want to spend anymore than what you currently listed, the 750W Corsair, while good, is considerably overkill for your system. You can knock off $50 by dropping down to a 600W PSU or 620W which in turns you means you can spend more other parts (and I would recommend you spend more on the video card). Take a look at the OP again and answer some of those questions. One additional question: Do you plan to upgrade this computer often?

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Your buddies parts are outdated. The most glaring issues are the i5 760 and GTX 460. Intel has replaced it with the i5 2500k for the same price, and the 2500k is much faster. 2500K also requires a different motherboard. The particular GTX 460 chosen is overpriced. Nvidia has replaced the GTX 460 with the GTX 560, which is faster and can be found for the same price as that EVGA Superclocked card. AMD also offers the HD 6870 as a faster alternative to the GTX 460, and they can be found cheaper than that one.

There are more changes you can do to get a better build for your money. Unless you want the 5-year warranty on the Western Digital hard drive, I'd recommend you go with a 1TB drive like the Samsung F3. I would consider these cases better options than the Three Hundred: CM HAF 912, NZXT Beta Evo, Rosewill Future, Rosewill Challenger, Xigmatek Utgard, Rosewill SmartOne, XION Classic Series, NZXT M9, Sentry BX1-4237, Lian Li Lancool K58, CM 690 II Basic, CM Storm Scout, Fractal Design Core 3000 , CM Storm Enforcer

We can't really suggest more changes without knowing how much you're willing/wanting to spend. For example if you don't want to spend anymore than what you currently listed, the 750W Corsair, while good, is considerably overkill for your system. You can knock off $50 by dropping down to a 600W PSU or 620W which in turns you means you can spend more other parts (and I would recommend you spend more on the video card). Take a look at the OP again and answer some of those questions. One additional question: Do you plan to upgrade this computer often?

I am looking to learn more about computers so yes I will be planning to upgrade it in the future. PC gaming has always interested me so I would love to learn as much as I can. I am sort of on a budget with rent and bills so all I can afford willing to spend around $800-900 and dont need Windows 7 as I can install that myself. I am totally open ears on whatever suggestions and builds you guys have.

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620W Antec HCG - $70 / $50

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 - $150

CM Storm Enforcer - $80

1TB Samsung F3 - $60

Core i5 2500K - $220

8GB DDR3-1600 Patriot Signature - $50

dvd burner - $20

GTX 560 Ti Gigabyte OC - $235 / $205

Hyper 212+ cooler - $28

Total about $920 minus $50 in rebates.

If that is too much for you, then you can

a) Swap out the video card for this GTX 460 MSI Hawk or this HD 6870 XFX w/Dirt 3 and Dues Ex.

b) Drop the heatsink. Pick one up later after you learn more and want to do some serious overclocking.

c) Drop the motherboard down to Asus P8Z68-V LE, ASRock Z68 Extreme Gen3, or Gigabyte Z68A-DSH-B3

d) Pick a cheaper case from the ones I listed earlier. My top suggestions would be the Lancool K58 (currently $60) or HAF 912.

Do one or any of the above to meet your desired price target.

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620W Antec HCG - $70 / $50

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 - $150

CM Storm Enforcer - $80

1TB Samsung F3 - $60

Core i5 2500K - $220

8GB DDR3-1600 Patriot Signature - $50

dvd burner - $20

GTX 560 Ti Gigabyte OC - $235 / $205

Hyper 212+ cooler - $28

Total about $920 minus $50 in rebates.

If that is too much for you, then you can

a) Swap out the video card for this GTX 460 MSI Hawk or this HD 6870 XFX w/Dirt 3 and Dues Ex.

b) Drop the heatsink. Pick one up later after you learn more and want to do some serious overclocking.

c) Drop the motherboard down to Asus P8Z68-V LE, ASRock Z68 Extreme Gen3, or Gigabyte Z68A-DSH-B3

d) Pick a cheaper case from the ones I listed earlier. My top suggestions would be the Lancool K58 (currently $60) or HAF 912.

Do one or any of the above to meet your desired price target.

You have been such a great help I really appreciate it! I liked all of your suggestions and did research on them. I decided to switch out the GPU and Case. I read reviews on all the GPU and I liked what everyone said about the HD 6870 and MSI Hawk. Which one would you prefer with the setup? I have read ATI drivers and cards are not as reliable as NVIDIA. Is that true? Also the 560ti people are saying the cards having problems. The Case I chose was the HAF 912. Everything else I like and will be buying soon. Thank you again!

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Either video card works fine. My recommendation is to get the HD 6870 if you want Deus Ex and Dirt 3. If you don't give a crap about those games, then go with the GTX 460 since it's cheaper. Both cards have their pluses and minuses from a driver standpoint. You may have read about some AMD issues but Nvidia has had them too; they released a driver that actually physically blew cards up. In the end I would call it a wash. As far as usability, AMD's driver control panel is pretty easy to navigate but Nvidia's is even more streamlined. As far as features the biggest selling point for the GTX 460 is the ability to use PhysX acceleration in the handful of games that support PhysX. Wiki it to find out more. The biggest selling point for the HD 6870 is that you can drive four (theoretically up to six) monitors from the same card and it has a plethora connectivity options, and in terms of gaming this means you can play games in super-widescreen. Google "eyefinity" to learn more. Both cards should be equally reliable; which is why I decided to recommend the small extra premium for cards with the custom dual fan coolers.

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Just wanting to say a big thank you again to cusideabelincoln with all the help he has done. [face_applause]

I am now posting from my new baby in its sexy corsair 600T case. Too bad verizon had to go on strike four days before my Fios install and now have to wait till Sept. 7... Thank you unlimited data plan on my verizon wireless for tethering!

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I just have a quick question in regards to using two cards for SLI. I have my first card already and was going to get the second one later on in the year (waiting on a drop in price). What my question is, is do I have to the the exact same card for SLI? Meaning I have the EVGA GTX 570 Superclocked so do I have to get the exact same card or would I be able to get the EVGA GTX 570 that is not superclocked? Or even would I be able to get another 570 from another company all together? Thanks for the help.

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You can mix and match different brands and clockspeeds for SLI, but the cards do have to be of the same model. You can't pair a GTX 560 with a GTX 560 Ti. Ideally you should have the cards run at the same clockspeed by overclocking one of them.

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So after AMD's bulldozer processor, do you think AMD's current gen processors/mobos are going to be lower in price? I'm thinking about building a new tower during the holidays, particularly before Black Friday.

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I will suspect a few processors to go on sale. The motherboards are already dirt cheap so they're overall not going to drop in price. You could be lucky to grab one that goes on clearance, but I suspect most boards will just run out of stock before dropping in price. But the good part is that Bulldozer motherboards will accept Phenom processors, so you'll be able to easily find a good board.

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Current build:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 5600+ @ 2.9 GHz

ATI HD Radeon 4670 1GB

4GB DDR2 667 RAM

Very crappy; can't even run the Red Orchestra 2 beta.

Here's what I am considering:

http://secure.newegg...Number=23734148

But I already have a 400w PSU under the same brand and I have that exact HDD.

I'd be saving $90 right there, bringing the total down to $425.95.

And here's the case I was considering:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811147153

That's $475.94 total. Perfectly within my budget for a new PC.

Couple questions, though:

1) Would a build like that max out The Witcher 2, Crysis 2, and Battlefield 3 at 1680x1050?

2) Should I opt for a 6850 over the 460?

3) I don't want the price of the PC to exceed $500, so if you can recommend a better GPU and motherboard brand without exceeding my budget, please do so. I'm a little iffy about that EVGA 460 and that ASRock motherboard.

4) Should I even purchase a new PC right now? Or is there a big sale in the near future that I'm not aware of?

Please don't suggest a Core i7 and a 6990. I can't afford something like that right now. Thanks.

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OK WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE GOD DAMN TEXT EDITOR WHY DOES IT INSERT EXTRA (AND DELETES) LINE BREAKS AND SPACES (WHITESPACE) AT RANDOM WHENEVER I FUCKING POST SOMETHING OR EDIT THE POST TO FIX THE FUCKING PROBLEM WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS PISSING ME OFF.

Anyway, here are some changes to the OP...

SSDs:

- $115
80GB Intel 320
- $160
120GB OCZ Vertex 3
- $200
128GB C rucial M4
- $200

Building Tutorials

FAQs

Power Supply (PSU)

  • I want to learn the basics of power supplies.

JonnyGuru.com has a great FAQ covering all of the fundamental questions. Tomshardware also has an article ("Picking The Right Power Supply: What You Should Know") about how PSUs work and how, to achieve optimal efficiency, to choose a power supply that is neither too big nor too small for your system.

  • How much power do I need?

Every component is different, so you have to estimate. There are several resources available to help you do this:

-Use this chart from Tomshardware to manually estimate how much power your system will use, and then pick a power supply bigger than that.

-Use this post at overclock.net to manually and more accurately estimate what power supply you'll need.

-Use this PSU calculator to automatically estimate your power needs.

-Use my more labor-intensive method: Add the load CPU power from the latest Lost Circuits review with the *PEAK* power chart from the latest TPU review. Then add 60W for the rest of the system components. Multiply that number by 1.3 to get the PSU required. Overclocking? Add 50-100W for the CPU and another 50-100W for the video card. The range is large because it depends on how much you overclock, so go a little bit bigger if you're unsure.

-Use my alternate method: Instead of using reviews you can just add the TDP of the CPU and GPU, then add 60W for the rest of the system. Multiply that number by 1.2 to get the required power supply. AMD.com, Intel.com, and GPUReview can be used to find TDP (Thermal Design Power or Max Power Draw). Google can also be used.

  • How do I know if a power supply is good?

You can look up reviews for power supply, but be sure to look at in depth reviews. Not all reviews thoroughly test power supplies. However these sites do a very good job dissecting power supplies and can be considered reputable:

JonnyGuru

Hardwaresecrets

Techpowerup

HardOCP

PCPerspective

Kitguru

Overclockersclub

A list of recommended power supplies at OCN - people have already done the research for you!

  • I want to find out who really makes a power supply.

Since a lot of power supplies are branded under different names, use these resources to find out who makes what:

Tomshardware "Who's Who in Power Supplies 2011"

Hardwaresecrets "How to Discover Your Power Supply’s Real Manufacturer"

JonnyGuru UL database

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I am currently considering my own PC build.

I am debating several major questions though!

First I need to pick a CPU. I am thinking the I7 2600K or perhaps waiting for the Bulldozer CPUs or this rumored I7 2700K. Any thoughts on that?

Secondly I need a GPU: What is the best single affordable GPU out there right now? The GTX 580? I had thought of others cards like the GTX 590 and the HD 6990, but those cards are too damn much.

Lastly, is now a good time to buy? I am afraid I might buy a computer and kick myself for not waiting because something much better is right around the corner. However, I really want a new computer to play BF3, Rage and Skyrim.

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At this point, quite a few things are "just around the corner". Bulldozer could release any time between now and December. AMD are also releasing new videocards before the end of the year. The 7970, on paper, looks to be around 25% faster than the 6970. It's a safe guess to say it'll be $380. This means the 7970 will be ~10-15% faster than the GTX 580 (since the 6970 is, on average, 10-15% lower than the GTX 580).

I don't think Intel or Nvidia are going to release anything too interesting before 2012. The i7 2700K is definitely not interesting. It'll be the same as the 2600K but perhaps clocked 100-200mhz faster. If it's $320 and pushes the 2600K down to $290 or something, then fine.

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At this point, quite a few things are "just around the corner". Bulldozer could release any time between now and December. AMD are also releasing new videocards before the end of the year. The 7970, on paper, looks to be around 25% faster than the 6970. It's a safe guess to say it'll be $380. This means the 7970 will be ~10-15% faster than the GTX 580 (since the 6970 is, on average, 10-15% lower than the GTX 580).

I don't think Intel or Nvidia are going to release anything too interesting before 2012. The i7 2700K is definitely not interesting. It'll be the same as the 2600K but perhaps clocked 100-200mhz faster. If it's $320 and pushes the 2600K down to $290 or something, then fine.

I am hearing the 7970 may not make 2011 now. It may be 2012 after all.

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O.k, so I think I might finally attempt to build my first computer. Need some help on suggestions for parts as I'm not very knowledgeable on this. This will be something I buy piece by piece so I wont be buying everything right away, but having it done this way will make it easier on me with my tight budget. This will be basically for gaming, I don't need something that is the best, something that is a noticeable jump from the current consoles will suffice, but also something where I can upgrade later to something better with flexibility would be great.

What I already have is the case, the monitor, keyboard/mouse. Don't have the OS or anything else. The case I bought was bought quite a while back, at least 2 or 3 years ago I think, so I'm not sure if this case will be good enough for today's standards.

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Based on what you already have, just put the money aside until you have enough to get everything at once. Upgrading piece by piece is only worth it if you can use each piece as you get it. If it just sits in the box while you wait until you can afford the other parts you risk missing out on lower prices and/or better parts.

The case should be fine unless you want something with better cooling, more ports, etc. One thing you should check is your power supply. Find out its rating and make sure it has a 24 pin connector, an 8 pin EPS connector (not to be confused with an 8 pin PCI-E connector) and make a note of how many 6 pin and 8 pin PCI-E connectors you have.

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My case doesn't have a PSU with it. So I will have to buy one of those as well. Though aren't these recommended to buy anyway? It's a pretty cheesy looking case, even has a slot for a zip drive it looks like lol. It would be a waste to not use this case since it's never been used, so I'll probably stick with it if I can.

I thought it might be good to buy it in pieces since there could be a good deal that I would miss if I waited for me to have all the money.

One thing to make note of if your helping with recommending me parts. I'm Canadian, so will have to be limited to Canadian sites.

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Ah, I thought you were reusing the case from an old system. If it's a normal ATX case it should be fine if you're satisfied with it. For stores have a look at Newegg.ca and NCIX.com (especially the weekly specials). Try to get an idea of how much you want to spend.

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