Spork3245 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I didn't know where else to put this: BMW can go F themselves. This really burns my ass Spoiler (... see... see what I did there?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I wonder how fast someone will be able to hack this bullshit idea and make it free like everyone else who has this option built into their fucking vehicle. It’s a godsend when the winter months act like actual winter, plus a heated steering wheel is the icing on top of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 No, BMW is not making heated seats a subscription for US cars ARSTECHNICA.COM In Korea, BMW will let owners subscribe to options instead of buying them outright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Jason said: No, BMW is not making heated seats a subscription for US cars ARSTECHNICA.COM In Korea, BMW will let owners subscribe to options instead of buying them outright. Sounds like a test market, not a “we won’t do that” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, silentbob said: I wonder how fast someone will be able to hack this bullshit idea and make it free like everyone else who has this option built into their fucking vehicle. It’s a godsend when the winter months act like actual winter, plus a heated steering wheel is the icing on top of that. This is basically on-disc dlc, but for cars 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I feel like a cheaper car company would have been pulling these shenanigans before a luxury/performance brand. I could see it maybe being a good thing if it magically made the car cheaper in price. Having heated seats in some climates is kind of a waste anyway. But we all know putting a feature behind a pay wall isn't going to make their vehicles any cheaper so fuck them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: I feel like a cheaper car company would have been pulling these shenanigans before a luxury/performance brand. I could see it maybe being a good thing if it magically made the car cheaper in price. Having heated seats in some climates is kind of a waste anyway. But we all know putting a feature behind a pay wall isn't going to make their vehicles any cheaper so fuck them. I think BMW was the first to do this previously, they are or were doing it with wireless apple CarPlay. You need to do a yearly sub for it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Toyota was going to do something similar but I think they backed off that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Another example of why the right to repair is so important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Toyota was going to do something similar but I think they backed off that idea. They didnt Toyota takes subscriptions mainstream with monthly charge for key fob DRIVING.CA Automaker offering three- to ten-year free trials of connected services available on 2018-and-newer vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, SimpleG said: They didnt Toyota takes subscriptions mainstream with monthly charge for key fob DRIVING.CA Automaker offering three- to ten-year free trials of connected services available on 2018-and-newer vehicles I think they did actually Toyota 'Reviewing' Key Fob Remote Start Subscription Plan After Massive Blowback WWW.THEDRIVE.COM A spokesperson told The Drive that making the key fob remote start part of a subscription plan was an “unintentional” move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I think they did actually Toyota 'Reviewing' Key Fob Remote Start Subscription Plan After Massive Blowback WWW.THEDRIVE.COM A spokesperson told The Drive that making the key fob remote start part of a subscription plan was an “unintentional” move. Per the title of the article you linked says they are reviewing and in the article itself Finally, Toyota has heard the outrage over the last week—a spokesperson told us the company was caught off guard by the blowback—and its executive team is currently examining whether it's possible to reverse course and drop the subscription requirement for key fob remote start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, SimpleG said: Per the title of the article you linked says they are reviewing and in the article itself Finally, Toyota has heard the outrage over the last week—a spokesperson told us the company was caught off guard by the blowback—and its executive team is currently examining whether it's possible to reverse course and drop the subscription requirement for key fob remote start. Yeah. So not implemented yet. And of course they can drop it if it's tied to a phone app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Yeah. So not implemented yet. And of course they can drop it if it's tied to a phone app. Right from the website https://www.toyota.com/content/dam/toyota/brochures/pdf/connectedservices/Remote_Connect_CFA.pdf And you were right And I dont like you any more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Car model differentiation is pretty dumb as is, this is just nakedly abusive instead of covertly so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: Car model differentiation is pretty dumb as is, this is just nakedly abusive instead of covertly so I've spent a lot of time thinking about car model differentiation and I've come to the conclusion that it's wildly manipulative and we just kind of... accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I've spent a lot of time thinking about car model differentiation and I've come to the conclusion that it's wildly manipulative and we just kind of... accept it. Car dealerships are universally hated but god forbid you try to make it so you don't need a car in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: Car model differentiation ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: ????? AKA trim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 9 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: AKA trim Motherfuckers, speak ENGLISH. This is AMERICA god damnit! Diferentiation my ass. Anyways buy the trim with the safety features, good audio, and fancy headlights (the highest one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 I think these companies got bold when they saw people willing to pay more to activate GPS navigation when all the hardware is in the car already. really it’s electric cars where this makes the most sense. Car audio packs. Dashboard appearance packs. Sports pack where the electric engine and car audio will mimic a non-electric sports car the same way a racing game does (engine sounds, revs and gear changes). Then sell the sports pack for different “genres”. Like Italian (Ferrari), German (Porsche), American Pony (Mustang), etc. whatever. Star Wars pack gets you tie fighter and millennium Falcon engine sounds and other in car audio cues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 The more software driven these cars are, the more they can pull off shit like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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